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Velorien comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 113 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Velorien 28 February 2015 09:54:28PM 1 point [-]

The patronus can be willed to take the form of a sphere

It can? I don't remember that. But if true, can it be willed to take the form of a sphere around Harry, thereby providing a perfect anti-Killing Curse shield?

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 28 February 2015 10:11:37PM 4 points [-]

The patronus is willed to take the form of a sphere when Harry leads the Aurors to rescue Draco. And, yes, it might protect from AKs and from Voldie, but the Death Eaters have been instructed to attack Harry with a wide variety of curses.

Comment author: [deleted] 28 February 2015 10:00:06PM *  1 point [-]

Not going to stop Fiendfyre, or any of a hundred other things Voldy can do to kill him.

Comment author: Velorien 28 February 2015 10:01:41PM 1 point [-]

No, the resonance effect will take care of that.

Voldemort's only viable means of killing him immediately and directly is the gun.

Comment author: [deleted] 28 February 2015 10:04:42PM 1 point [-]

That is very unlikely.

Comment author: Velorien 28 February 2015 10:05:25PM 1 point [-]

Why?

Comment author: [deleted] 28 February 2015 10:30:02PM 2 points [-]

He's a competent antagonist.

Comment author: Velorien 01 March 2015 12:00:49AM 1 point [-]

He is. But assuming that he is super-prepared, beyond the abilities and equipment we've seen or been given reason to postulate, results in an unsolvable puzzle. Someone as intelligent, experienced, prepared and resourceful as Voldemort could theoretically have a counter for anything we can come up with.

We know or can reasonably assume that he obtained a gun specifically as a solution to the problem of not being able to injure or kill Harry with magic. We don't have any reason to believe that he has prepared further, backup solutions to that specific problem.

Comment author: fezziwig 01 March 2015 12:10:10AM 3 points [-]

There's one thing for which it's genuinely impossible for V to have a counter: the realization that killing Harry is not in his interests. Speaking in Parseltongue, bound by the Vow, Harry is uniquely prepared to make that case -- assuming it's true.

Comment author: Velorien 01 March 2015 12:18:16AM 3 points [-]

Well, that's the sticking point. Parseltongue and the Vow prove that Harry is honest. They don't prove that he's right, and Voldemort can simply choose to dismiss any of Harry's arguments as insufficient (which isn't that hard, given that the risk of keeping him alive is the end of the world, and any risk incurred by killing him is probably going to be less bad).

Comment author: minichirops 01 March 2015 09:24:19AM 1 point [-]
Comment author: CronoDAS 28 February 2015 11:51:06PM 0 points [-]

Or having a Death Eater do it for him.