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ChristianKl comments on Towards a theory of nerds... who suffer. - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: ChristianKl 09 March 2015 12:10:25PM 0 points [-]

The whole set of problems is not studied yet at all, so I am just doing the scope-work basiclly i.e. what may play a role.

I don't believe that's the case. I don't think that self-hating isn't studied at all.

It is a definition issue. I don't mean STEM-geeks, I mean people who use escapist-heroic fantasy. That is a clear sign. People who hate themselves usually find a way to fantasize about being a hero.

There are many ways to escape reality besides fantasizing being a hero.

Having a hero that serve as a role model can also be valuable.

There is the table topics and the fact that in the breaks people 1) try harder than usual to socialize, even when they normally the type who does not do this, but they understand that these evenings are dedicated to communication 2) they are super nice at it, non-judgemental, non-competitive, it is not like going to a party where everybody is basically bragging and trying to undermine your status to raise theirs.

How much time have you spent at toastmasters? I have spent 4 1/2 years. I know how it works. Empirically in the years I spent at toastmasters my 1:1 interaction skills didn't improve as much as they did in the last years.

Comment author: [deleted] 09 March 2015 12:17:47PM *  0 points [-]

I don't think that self-hating isn't studied at all.

More like its coping strategies and the social effects thereof not being studied. The issue is, people just thing they like e.g. D&D, they don't know they are doing it to cope with self-hatred. On the other hand, psychologists study self-hatred but do not look into the hobbies it causes and the social response of them.

There are many ways to escape reality besides fantasizing being a hero.

Such as drugs, but the point here is not the escaping the reality of circumstances but ones own self.

TM: Not much, about 6 months. Still it helped me ease up. I accept the argument that it is only an initial boost if you are very tight to begin with.