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shminux comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 116 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: shminux 04 March 2015 09:02:47PM 2 points [-]

When does TT reset to unused? At midnight?

Comment author: TylerJay 05 March 2015 08:10:20AM 2 points [-]

Unclear. Either midnight or as soon as last 24 hours contain less than 6 hours of looped time. I've been wondering this as well. I think I remember something being said like "No combination of time-turners could let you fit more than 30 hours into a day" but I don't know if that really helps...

Comment author: TobyBartels 05 March 2015 11:27:10PM 0 points [-]

Where is that written? I well remember that no chain of time turners can send information (at least information comprehensible by humans) back more than 6 hours, but that still allows one to add those 6 hours more than once a day, especially with multiple time turners.

Comment author: TylerJay 06 March 2015 12:01:31AM *  1 point [-]

Ch 17:

Harry:

"...Sorry to ask but I was wondering, is it possible to get more than six hours if you use more than one Time-Turner? Because it's pretty impressive if you're doing all that on just thirty hours a day."

Dumbledore:

"I'm afraid Time doesn't like being stretched out too much," said Dumbledore after the slight pause, "and yet we ourselves seem to be a little too large for it, and so it's a constant struggle to fit our lives into Time."

Comment author: TobyBartels 06 March 2015 06:23:20AM 1 point [-]

Thanks, but that's not actually definitive. Somewhere on Reddit is a list of information about time turners, and while this was quoted there, nothing else suggested that you couldn't go back 6 hours, wait 12 hours, then go back 6 hours with a new time turner.

But there was a clear statement by Eliezer that you couldn't go back 6 hours, wait only 6 hours, and then go back again. This imposes a hard limit of 48 hours per day.

Comment author: TylerJay 07 March 2015 03:21:26AM 0 points [-]

Nope, you're right. It's not definitive. In my original comment, I just said I thought I remembered reading somewhere that you couldn't fit >30 hrs into a day, and the passage I quoted is where I got that impression. If /r/hpmor thinks it's possible that TTs let you fit up to 48 hrs in a day, then I have high confidence there wasn't anything explicitly forbidding it in the story.

Comment author: TobyBartels 08 March 2015 08:56:21PM 0 points [-]

Just to be clear, the Reddit thread didn't say that you can fit 48 hours in a day, it just didn't say that you couldn't. And it probably had that Dumbledore quotation too, it's just me saying that we can't know for sure what that quote means.

Comment author: TylerJay 09 March 2015 07:22:53AM 0 points [-]

Haha, yup, I gotcha. Thanks for the info.