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Comment author: ChristianKl 08 March 2015 09:39:03AM 2 points [-]

On of the best studied interventions for increasing happiness and thus help with issues like depression are gratitude exercises.

With a few friends I just started a group where everyone posts an audio message into a "What's up" before going to sleep about 5 good things that happened to him the last day. I'm just at day one, but I would expect the exercise to be very beneficial for both increasing happiness and creating group cohesion/friendships among LessWrong Meetup participants.

Comment author: [deleted] 09 March 2015 11:46:58AM 2 points [-]

Bragging may be more useful. I came up with that idea after reading this: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/16/burdens/

If depressed people feel like burdens on others i.e. have low self-worth,self-esteem, it may be better to boost that than to feel lucky.

I mean, I always had this opinion, I felt good about myself, why would I have a reason to feel bad about anything? To feel still worthless but lucky - which gratitude exercises may cause - does not sound like fixing it. The opposite extreme, feeling worthy and great but unlucky, would sound quite cool to me, it sounds like being a tragic hero whom people respect.

That is why I think bragging, feeling better about yourself, may be a good idea.

Comment author: riparianx 08 March 2015 05:29:08PM 0 points [-]

So you think the idea of a rational support group could work? I'd certainly be interested in one. Any idea how one could be set up? Meetups are a little too far and few to be really effective, I think.

Comment author: ChristianKl 08 March 2015 07:41:56PM 0 points [-]

So you think the idea of a rational support group could work?

It's a vague general label. Part of what happens at our LW meetup in Berlin could be called a "rational support group".

Meetups are a little too far and few to be really effective, I think.

I don't think that's true. If there's no LW meetup nearby, start one. Bootstrapping trust is easier when one meets in person.

Comment author: riparianx 08 March 2015 07:59:54PM 1 point [-]

A meetup sort of requires more than one person. There aren't even any other HPMoR readers in my area, except the person I introduced to it. I'm sure this is a problem for others, too. Being the sole LWer in your area that you can find is frustrating. I'm in central Oklahoma, and according to surveys and the like, I'm pretty much the only Oklahoman here. And I'm pretty sure this is a common plight- Berlin is a big city full of interesting people with interesting viewpoints. What if you're from, say, Ukiah, Oregon, or Mobile, Alabama, or a place even smaller or further out of the way? Physical meetups are most effective, but kind of a luxury.

Comment author: CAE_Jones 09 March 2015 07:15:41AM 0 points [-]

I'm sure this is a problem for others, too.

Yes.

I'm in Northeast Arkansas. I considered trying to reach the St Louis Meetup Groups (my town's only cheap way out for someone who can't drive just happens to be to St Louis, and only St Louis), but for a number of reasons that never happened before that meetup group was defunct.

Meetup.com did briefly have a skeptics group in my town. Briefly--before I could get over my panic at the "describe yourself" requirement, it, too, was defunct. Otherwise, the meetups within 50 miles of me appear to include moms and a group of board gamers in Memphis.