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Subbak comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 119 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: DanielLC 10 March 2015 07:30:09PM 3 points [-]

I think Harry should start requiring unbreakable vows for people using transfiguration. He also should hurry with colonizing other planets and moons, in case someone does transfigure something they shouldn't.

Transfiguration will get more powerful once they have some interesting material science classes. Having mass limits isn't much of a problem when you start transfiguring stuff into super-light nanotube-reinforced titanium nantorusses.

Comment author: Subbak 10 March 2015 08:08:14PM 4 points [-]

The thing, if no wizards are dying any more, how do you get those Unbreakable Vows in any ethical way?

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 11 March 2015 01:03:28AM 6 points [-]

A very brief oath, so everyone ends up sacrificing some power, but it's not a crippling loss.

<gaming>Since everyone is doing it, you can define a single one-syllable word for the full content of the oath, make sure everyone knows what it means, and then begin using that.</gaming>

Comment author: Gondolinian 10 March 2015 08:24:37PM *  5 points [-]

I got the impression that there were already healthy wizards who would perform Unbreakable Vows for enough money, and the thing about using terminally ill wizards was just Harry's idea to do it more efficiently.

Comment author: Subbak 10 March 2015 09:53:45PM 3 points [-]

I was under the impression that said Wizards had their Magic for the Vow extorted out of them by the Noble houses which had both vastly superior wealth and the ability to make them broke. I can't imagine someone willingly giving away their magic unless they had no real choice in the matter. It would be similar to giving away your legs.

Comment author: DanielLC 11 March 2015 10:40:25PM 2 points [-]

It's less ethical if they are going to live with slightly less magic for eternity.

Comment author: westward 12 March 2015 04:46:34AM 2 points [-]

If a wizard wants the P Stone Treatment, they have to agree to two things: To sacrifice a little magic as part of the Vow of another and to take a Vow themselves.