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Comment author: knb 11 March 2015 05:18:32AM *  5 points [-]

Some perspective:

Instead of closed offices, most of people worked or learned under the sunlight, shielded by a glass screen overhead that kept out the rain and ultraviolet, with your own space concealed by curtains that could be opened or shut to indicate botherability. If you needed silence for concentration, you used earplugs. People who needed to have loud conversations without disturbing others would have enclosed rooms with doors and glass ceilings and air conditioning. If you showed the serious people a world where most people never saw the sun while they worked, they’d flip out and then correct the problem. Skyscrapers weren’t much built in dath ilan until we had extremely bright artificial light that could mostly substitute for sunlight, and hey were all put in locations where skyscrapers were explicitly allowed. Blocking out someone else’s sun would be a serious transgression, and symbolic.

We had laser zappers and other measures that destroyed bugs and mosquitos and wasps and bees - these were considered far more annoying in dath ilan than Earth, and our civilization put a lot of effort and technology into rooting them out, or preventing them from getting a foothold within the great city. On the “beware of trivial inconveniences” scale, I suspect that an absence of little flying bugs, to say nothing of bugs that bit and stung and made noises, might be part of why people did their daily work beneath sunlight, in open air. I think there was a variety of butterfly that was bred to pollinate flowers and such within cities, in place of bees - at least I know that we weren’t supposed to crush butterflies.

From here. Basically Eliezer thinks people should work outside but don't because of insect problems (among other things.)

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 11 March 2015 08:54:59AM 3 points [-]

So... people should work inside greenhouses? I can see more than one problem with this.

Comment author: TobyBartels 13 March 2015 05:29:34AM 1 point [-]

Air-conditioned greenhouses.

Comment author: knb 16 March 2015 07:55:40AM 0 points [-]

Not quite greenhouses. It seems like Eliezer is saying it would be a glass canopy without enclosing walls (so you would still get natural fresh air flow.

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 17 March 2015 06:32:23PM 0 points [-]

This might be a good idea if there was some way to stop screen glare

Comment author: [deleted] 14 April 2015 09:24:09AM 0 points [-]

E-ink.