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ourimaler comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 120 - Less Wrong Discussion

1 Post author: Gondolinian 12 March 2015 07:03PM

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Comment author: ourimaler 12 March 2015 07:22:25PM 8 points [-]

Kind of glad Draco wouldn't give an answer to Harry - it's sad, but also entirely realistic. Would have strained my suspicion of disbelief if he'd just accepted to forgive and forget.

As for Narcissa... Sweet vindication. ...And then a gutpunch as she speaks her husband's name.

Comment author: MarkusRamikin 12 March 2015 07:40:07PM 10 points [-]

I hoped for Draco saying "I need more time. Lock me up somewhere safe if you have to, but I need time to process this."

Comment author: Gondolinian 12 March 2015 07:48:31PM *  19 points [-]

Yeah, I feel like Harry was being kind of unreasonable in dropping bombshell after bombshell of worldview-shattering information on an already emotionally fragile mind, and then asking for an irrevocable decision, all in a span of thirty minutes.

Comment author: polymathwannabe 12 March 2015 10:03:37PM 0 points [-]

Had I been Draco, I would have vehemently demanded to keep those memories.

Comment author: TobyBartels 13 March 2015 04:50:31AM 4 points [-]

Yes, Harry killed a half hour's worth of Draco without really giving it a second thought. Not much in the grand scheme of things, but I expected Harry to notice that this is a little bit of evil. (Just because Wizards do it all the time doesn't make it not evil, as Harry well knows.) But maybe we'll get Harry's perspective later.

Comment author: hairyfigment 13 March 2015 08:28:20AM 5 points [-]

He explicitly said "seal away," not "erase".

Comment author: TobyBartels 13 March 2015 10:23:56AM 1 point [-]

You're right, that is less evil.

Comment author: MarkusRamikin 13 March 2015 04:29:52PM 0 points [-]

And less secure.

Comment author: TobyBartels 13 March 2015 07:37:39PM 0 points [-]

If Harry has to do harm in order to obtain security, then I expect him to do it, but I still expect him to feel guilty about it. That's Harry. (And in this case, I also don't see the need.)

Comment author: Benquo 13 March 2015 07:04:44AM 2 points [-]

No, they just put the memories in a Pensieve for later (if Draco becomes an occlumens and turns out to be trustworthy).

Comment author: Unknowns 13 March 2015 06:19:22AM 0 points [-]

In fact, Harry and Quirrell agreed with each other that the original Horcrux did not work because it did not preserve new memories and so did not have true continuity of self. If this was right, then Harry just (in effect) murdered Draco and revived him with a Horcrux V. 1.0. And even if it isn't right, Harry should think that it is, according to his discussion with Quirrell.

Comment author: WalterL 12 March 2015 07:51:36PM 5 points [-]

I dunno, the best way to carry on his Malfoy tradition would be to thank the Boy-Who-Lived profusely, smile falsely and carry on. For emphasis he should claim he was only Imperiused into pretending to love his father, callback to Lucius -> Voldemort. Harry isn't dumb enough to trust him no matter what he says, might as well spit in his eye one last time.

Comment author: TobyBartels 13 March 2015 04:51:40AM 3 points [-]

I'm sure that he would have like to do this, but he wasn't emotionally capable of carrying on the Malfoy tradition properly; he was just musing about that.

Comment author: Subbak 12 March 2015 07:35:17PM 3 points [-]

Well I guess eventually the right memories will come back to her. Although I guess Draco can't have been more than a few months old when she "died".

Comment author: ourimaler 12 March 2015 07:36:42PM 4 points [-]

He's about Harry's age and Narcissa was disappeared before Voldy got kaboomed, so, yeah.