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William_Quixote comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 120 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: William_Quixote 12 March 2015 07:41:30PM *  13 points [-]

The question Harry asks Draco and Draco's final non answer seem like a reference to the book The Sunflower by Simon Weisenthal.

Simon was in a concentration camp and called to the bed of a dying SS officer who asked for forgiveness. He felt pulled to both forgiveness and to the justness of telling the nazi that what he had done was unforgivable. In the end he said nothing.

The book has Weisenthal discussing the dilemma and then 53 other people of note commenting on what they would have done ranging from the Dali Lama to Desmond Tutu.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 12 March 2015 08:19:48PM 6 points [-]

I've ordered the book. I don't think it's particularly unusual for people to go silent when they've offered two unattractive alternatives, though.

Comment author: gattsuru 12 March 2015 08:37:41PM 3 points [-]

Also, whether Harry intended it or not, he gave two separate choices: whether Harry should stay away entirely, and whether Harry should be a friend that does not manipulate or risk harming Draco ever again. At least to some extent, Draco's refusal to respond reflects a disjoint answer to both questions, and has invited Harry to remain a friend that may manipulate or harm Draco for his own good.

Comment author: RobbBB 12 March 2015 09:16:41PM *  19 points [-]

I think the spirit of Draco's response is closer to 'jesus christ I'm not dealing with this shit right now, could you have possibly picked a worse time' than to 'I give you permission to manipulate me without my knowledge forever, let's be BFFs'.

Comment author: TobyBartels 13 March 2015 04:57:27AM 0 points [-]

Yes, let's just hope that Harry realizes that!