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Comment author: Lumifer 25 March 2015 05:06:51PM 1 point [-]

Stupid question: what else is actual power for, beside enjoying rubbing it into people's faces?

To accomplish things in reality.

See, your problem is that you lack motivation and don't have goals you're passionate about chasing. But that is not true for a lot of people. A lot of people want -- really want -- specific results and outcomes in the real world and power is very useful for making this happen.

Comment author: [deleted] 26 March 2015 08:29:50AM 0 points [-]

OK, reformulating: for all those people why is power problematic ? Why would Viliam think it can be still crushing when wielded politely? (You are not Viliam, obviously, and I am not asking you to explain someone else's thoughts, I am just trying to illustrate my point.)

I mean, suppose Romeo and John manages to get MealSquares into every grocery store in the world. That fits this definition of power, but why would that bother anyone who is not a competitor (or perhaps a customer who dislike his favorite foods losing shelf space, but this is not exactly zero-sum, if a small number of people want a product really strongly, that is sort of an ideal setup for a webshop, they will probably not lose their supply).

Comment author: Lumifer 26 March 2015 02:26:46PM 1 point [-]

for all those people why is power problematic ?

I don't understand the question. Why is somebody else's power problematic for an individual? Because of safety, status, and competition. Why is power problematic socially? Well, there is a lot of literature written on the topic and I'm sure you're aware of it.