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is4junk comments on [POLITICS] Jihadism and a new kind of existential threat - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: is4junk 25 March 2015 10:49:08PM *  0 points [-]

What do Neoreactionaries think of the Islamic State? After all, it's an exemplar case of the reactionaries in those areas winning big. I know it's only a surface comparison, I'm sincerely curious about what a NR think of the situation.

While this is an interesting question - my take on the NRx was it was more anti-democracy then pro-Monarchy. So I think a better question for them would be: if fundamentalist Muslims become a democratic majority (via demographics) and vote in IS or the Muslim Brotherhood would that be a "big win" too? A less hypothetical question might be NRx's take on the state of Iraq's fledgling democracy.

Comment author: [deleted] 26 March 2015 09:30:55AM 0 points [-]

I've seen some NRx support for Saudi Arabia as a Muslim version of their principles, but nothing about the Islamic state.

Yet another case of ideals over loyalties.

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 26 March 2015 06:11:12AM 0 points [-]

I think you meant this as a reply to the original post, not to my reply.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure virtually all NRxers would prefer democracy to islamofasism - indeed, many argue that fasism is closely related to democracy, or that all democracies will inevitably become either fasist or communist. I think the NRxers are worried that ISIS have a better civilisation than us in certain key respects, largely involving demographics, which will eventually allow them to defeat us.

I also think the important difference is that NRxers generally claim to want to be left alone, and would probably be content to, at most, exile gays for instance. ISIS, OTOH, is following an old principle that states they can never sign peace treaties with infidels, and will kill rather than exile those it hates.