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Comment author: sixes_and_sevens 02 April 2015 11:59:57AM *  7 points [-]

Tasker is an Android app that lets you specify "contexts" (specific states of the phone), and carry out actions depending on these contexts. An example use-case might be something like "when I am connected to my home WiFi network, disable my screen lock".

One of the actions available under Tasker is "Run Shell", which lets you issue shell commands to the underlying operating system. To achieve your desired effect, you could:

  • Acquire Tasker (a few dollars)
  • Set it up to run with root privileges
  • Set a context of "between 11pm and 6am"
  • Set an action of the shell command "su -c shutdown -h now" (or something similar) to run under that context

This does seem quite hazardous, though. If an emergency happened at 3am, I'm pretty sure I'd want my phone easily available and usable.

ETA: I just Googled to see if there was an existing recipe for this. It turns out Android doesn't have a conventional shutdown terminal command, but does have the "reboot" command, with the switch -p for powering down. Tasker also has a "reboot" under System->Misc, with a power-down option on rooted phones. This can absolutely do what you want it to do. Just don't go having any emergencies between 11 and 6.

Comment author: Sean_o_h 02 April 2015 12:33:36PM *  4 points [-]

This does seem quite hazardous, though. If an emergency happened at 3am, I'm pretty sure I'd want my phone easily available and usable.

I was going to say this too, it's a good point. Potential fix: have a cheap non-smartphone on standby at home.

Comment author: The_Jaded_One 02 April 2015 12:39:22PM 1 point [-]

I already have another phone. Yes, this is a good point though.

Comment author: joaolkf 02 April 2015 01:30:39PM *  1 point [-]

Thanks! This will be useful for me as well, it definitely seems better than my current solution: leaving my cell phone locked in my office(EDIT: at work).

Comment author: The_Jaded_One 02 April 2015 03:12:44PM 0 points [-]

I tried leaving it in another room for a while, but that lead to other problems, including trips to the other room at night to just look at one more message etc

Comment author: joaolkf 02 April 2015 03:36:38PM 0 points [-]

Sorry, I meant my office at work (yeap...). Fixed that.

Comment author: The_Jaded_One 02 April 2015 01:06:43PM 0 points [-]

That's great!

I'll see if I can implement this.

Comment author: sixes_and_sevens 02 April 2015 01:15:11PM 0 points [-]

A general observation on Tasker: when I first got it (a few years ago) I thought I'd use it for all sorts of things. In reality, whenever I set something up in Tasker, it's usually either superseded by a more appropriate service or app a few months later, or broken by security fixes in subsequent versions of Android.

Comment author: ChristianKl 02 April 2015 02:59:53PM 1 point [-]

What are the most important things you replaced with other apps?

Comment author: sixes_and_sevens 02 April 2015 03:54:45PM 2 points [-]

None of them were that important, really. They were more customisations to how I wanted the device to work. "Make sure GPS is turned on when Maps is turned on" sort of thing (which you now can't do without rooting the device and jumping through a few hoops, so I just turn it on manually these days).

I had some stuff to conserve and report on battery consumption, which now has a zillion different apps. I also had some location-based contexts and automatic email actions which are now handled by IFTTT. It's easy to forget how rudimentary smartphone apps and services were, even just a few years ago.

Comment author: wadavis 02 April 2015 07:33:02PM 1 point [-]

Made the phone report it's location if you texted it the password. Security updates added hoops to jump through, and FindMyDroid came out for free with all the functionality.

Made the phone autoplay music when headphones were plugged in. I stopped needing these when I got a new car with a bluetooth stereo and stopped using the aux plug in.

Comment author: ChristianKl 02 April 2015 07:35:30PM 2 points [-]

Made the phone report it's location if you texted it the password. Security updates added hoops to jump through, and FindMyDroid came out for free with all the functionality.

Even without an App there's also the Android Device Manager.

Comment author: wadavis 02 April 2015 10:50:42PM 0 points [-]

Thank you kind stranger for showing me something new. I'm glad to have learnt that.

But to paint the full picture, I used that location password to find my lost phone very rarely. It was mostly used during festivals, conventions, and travelling so that my friends and co-travelers could easily find me. People are uncomfortable adopting it, but it is a real easy fix to the 'I'm here, where are you?' coordination problem.