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Manfred comments on [link] The surprising downsides of being clever - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Manfred 18 April 2015 08:54:17PM 3 points [-]

I think there is a very significant difference between average LWers' and average peoples' happiness, but that very little of it has to do with intelligence directly. We probably spend less time on family, friends, sex, singing, and running around outside (all wonderful things that increase happiness) than average, though we probably do more dancing than average (also happiness-increasing).

Overall, I find this subject and framing tiresome. Go plan how to spend more time with friends and family.

Comment author: [deleted] 18 April 2015 09:23:17PM *  4 points [-]

though we probably do more dancing than average (also happiness-increasing).

Do you really think so? Dancing is a highly social activity for extroverts that people with any hint of autism spectrum rarely do, and the last thing I would imagine about the LW community is to be less autistic than the average. I would say some amount of it is almost a precondition for rationalism: there is at least a slight autism in thinking a belief is something you form yourself, individually, on the inside, based on evidence, not an inner echo simply reflecting the socially expected opinion. You need to shut yourself a little bit from social life to have that, to make your beliefs really individual and not social echo based.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 18 April 2015 11:06:39PM 3 points [-]

Dancing is a highly social activity for extroverts that people with any hint of autism spectrum rarely do, and the last thing I would imagine about the LW community is to be less autistic than the average.

The social dance scene is full of over educated introverts. Ritualized social interaction. Uncomfortable chit chat is not required.

Also, I think introverts tend toward kinesthetic sensory focus, for which dance provides a natural outlet.

Comment author: ChristianKl 19 April 2015 08:10:16PM 1 point [-]

I do spent a lot of time dancing but it produces little conversations that are influential for the beliefs I hold.

Dancing in a context with loud music doesn't really produce an environment that produces social expectations about beliefs you hold.

It's not time in which I about substantial new beliefs, but there's other time for that. It doesn't even have to be alone time. Conversations with other people who also care that their beliefs are based on evidence and who are well read is just as good for forming new beliefs as forming than alone on the internet.

Comment author: Manfred 19 April 2015 01:08:25AM *  -1 points [-]

Well. Shows how useful that line of argument is. lololol

Comment author: Username 19 April 2015 08:18:39AM 0 points [-]

We probably spend less time on family, friends, sex, singing, and running around outside (all wonderful things that increase happiness)

The first one of those (and, to a lesser extent, the last one) doesn't increase happiness for me...