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One sided. OTOH: An ethical system being a functional ethical system means its being able to resist too much system-gaming by individuals. Ethical systems have a social role. Communities that can't persuade any of their members to sacrifice themselves in defence of the community don't survive,
What? If voluntary ethics is the fallback for the dangerous and damaged, what is the law, the criminal justice system, the involuntary stuff? (ETA and isnt a sociopath by definition someone who can't/won't internalise social norms?)
Systems of ethical rules are needed to solve the difficult problem of making on the spot calculations, and the impossible problem of spontaneously coordinating without commitment. Which is to say they are needed by almost everybody.
It may have the as-is characteristic, but it is very doubtful that it qualifies as ethics, since egoism is the opposite of ethics in the eyes of >99% of people.
Quit anthropomorphizing groups of people, criminal justice is designed for the sane, sociopathy is defined differently in psychiatry than among the general public, you never actually need to decide whether to save the world-famous violinist or the rather average doctor who occupy the different trolley tracks, and you're believing what the other monkeys tell you about what you should do when their actions are in clear contradiction.
None of that actually matters, though, because you're not actually arguing with me, you're debating points. I didn't give you anything to argue with, you're just so used to people wanting to argue that you tried to find things you could argue -with-. There's nothing there. It's all just assertions of premises you either accept or deny. Arguing about premises doesn't get you anywhere, will never get you anywhere, but you do it anyways. Why?
Do you think ethics are important enough to -defend-, even when there's nothing to be gained from defending them? Why is that?
LOL. So, are you here for conversations or are you here to make undebatable pronouncements?
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