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Lumifer comments on Open Thread, Apr. 27 - May 3, 2015 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: DataPacRat 30 April 2015 08:57:17PM 2 points [-]

the issue is

True - but for my purposes, having /some/ number, even if it's known to use poor assumptions, is better than none. I'm looking for things like "in which decade does a program requiring X MIPS become cheaper than minimum wage?" and "when can 100 petabytes be stuffed into ~1500 cm^3 or less, and how much will it cost?". Which crossovers happen in which order is more interesting than nailing down an exact year.

Comment author: Lumifer 30 April 2015 09:13:33PM *  2 points [-]

when can 100 petabytes be stuffed into ~1500 cm^3 or less

Well... a 200Gb microSD card already exists. So you need five of them per 1Tb, 5000 per 1Pb and 500,000 per 100 Pbs.

A microSD card is 11 x 15 x 1 mm = 165 mm3 = 0.165 cm3 and some of that is packaging and connectors.

500,000 x 0.165 = 82,500 cm3. You wanted 1,500? That's only about 50 times difference and getting rid of all that packaging and connectors should get you to about 30 times difference, more or less.

So the current flash memory density has to improve only by a factor of 30 or so to get you to your goal. That doesn't seem to be too far off.

The fun task of calculating the bandwidth of one of those stuffed to the gills with contemporary microSD cards is left as an exercise for the reader :-)

Comment author: CellBioGuy 01 May 2015 06:08:27AM 1 point [-]

Don't forget about the sheer amount of waste heat used by such an array were it actually on.

Comment author: Lumifer 01 May 2015 02:31:57PM 1 point [-]

Depends on the use case, I guess. The memory is non-volatile and the start-up time is negligible. If you only access one petabyte of memory within some time period, the other 99 can stay switched off and emit no heat.