Experience of typical mind fallacy.

Elo

following on from:

http://lesswrong.com/lw/dr/generalizing_from_one_example/

I am quite sure in my experience that at some point between the ages of 10-15 I concluded that; "no the rest of the world does not think like me, I think in an unusual way".

This idea disagrees with the typical mind fallacy (where people outwardly generalise to think everyone else has similar minds to their own).

I suspect I started with a typical mind model of the world but at some point it broke badly enough that I re-modelled on "I just think differently to most others".

I wanted to start a new discussion; rather than continuing on from one in 2009;

Where do your experiences lie in relation to typical minds?

following on from:

http://lesswrong.com/lw/dr/generalizing_from_one_example/

I am quite sure in my experience that at some point between the ages of 10-15 I concluded that; "no the rest of the world does not think like me, I think in an unusual way".

This idea disagrees with the typical mind fallacy (where people outwardly generalise to think everyone else has similar minds to their own).

I suspect I started with a typical mind model of the world but at some point it broke badly enough that I re-modelled on "I just think differently to most others".

I wanted to start a new discussion; rather than continuing on from one in 2009;

Where do your experiences lie in relation to typical minds?

The difference is, that if the teacher was aware of what he was doing, he wouldn't do it.

Eh, no, I don't think so. I'm not buying into the "if only people were more self-aware, they would be a lot nicer" theory. Especially with "it's not his fault, he just doesn't know any better" overtones.

because of typical-mind fallacy the smart person will then assume everyone's just kinda alien and terrible in their intentions rather than just slightly worse at carrying intentions out.

No, I still don't think so. A smart person should be able to figure out Hanlon's Razor. I don't know any smart kids who actually had the "all of them are as smart as me, just much more mean" attitude towards others.

I model the other person as accidentally doing 2x3=6.

That's a weird model. If it's "accidental", do you the predict that the next time it will be 4, or 7, or 11, or something random?

My usual starting model for other people is "What are their incentives? What are they trying to do to the best of their ability?" and only in the fairly rare cases of a major mismatch, I start to consider the possibilities that these people might be really clueless or really mean or something like that.

I would predict they'll do whatever fails mode they've done in the past, or do the failures which i barely catch myself from doing.

Are you sure that you don't first look at the behavior and then calculate an incentive map? (Which obviously will fit rather well since it is post hoc?) ((Because that's the failure mode most people fall into))(((and doesn't your last paragraph depict a thought process which is the exact opposite of Hanlons razor?)))