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3 Post author: Gunnar_Zarncke 01 May 2015 09:11PM

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Comment author: [deleted] 04 May 2015 10:58:33AM 4 points [-]

Technology can feel like it controls us or - if it goes well - it can feel like a natural enhancement of mind and body.

Have you ever wondered why, in an age of cell phones and hand grenades, telepaths and fireball throwing wizards in fantasy books sounds cool? Somehow it seems like we like to do things with our mind or body only, not relying on tools.

That is how primitive cyberpunk novels fail. I am pretty sure I don't want to replace my eyeballs with mechanical eyes. However I am thinking if LASIK surgery could be good. So the idea is not so much so to implant machines in our body or to use them externally, but to use technology to make our own bodies become high quality and powerful. I like this idea.

Comment author: Jiro 04 May 2015 02:28:38PM 2 points [-]

People shooting other people with blaster rifles and flying spaceships sounds cool too.

Comment author: Capla 09 May 2015 08:30:23PM 0 points [-]

I'm not sure what your point is?

Comment author: Lumifer 06 May 2015 03:09:39PM 1 point [-]

I am pretty sure I don't want to replace my eyeballs with mechanical eyes.

Not even if you could adjust them to become telescopes or microscopes if need be? If you could switch to seeing in infrared or ultraviolet? Add amplification to clearly see on moonless nights with nothing but starlight?

Comment author: [deleted] 07 May 2015 07:20:57AM 1 point [-]

If this can be done inside the eyes, it can be done outside the eyes, as a removable eyeglasses like thing.

This is why cyberpunk never really made sense to me. Why remove the choice of putting something on or off? Okay there is an advantage of never forgetting it at home, still. Gibson's razor blades implanted under the fingernails sound cool until you realize you just gave up the option of ever being allowed on an airplane for example.

Oh, and sometimes I hear horror stories that when people wear diamond rings for decades and it becomes unremovable from their fingers, and some criminal mugs them, they just cut of the finger. Extrapolate from here...

Comment author: ChristianKl 04 May 2015 11:26:28AM 1 point [-]

That is how primitive cyberpunk novels fail. I am pretty sure I don't want to replace my eyeballs with mechanical eyes.

You might not, that doesn't mean that nobody does. I think I have meet 3 people face to face with implants to be able to perceive magnetic fields.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 04 May 2015 06:23:35PM 1 point [-]

Need not be implants. The NorthPaw http://sensebridge.net/projects/northpaw/ or the feelspace belt http://feelspace.cogsci.uni-osnabrueck.de/ are cool despite being devices - precisely because they quickly fade into the subconscious.

Comment author: ChristianKl 04 May 2015 06:27:39PM 0 points [-]

Yes, there are non-implant solution but that doesn't change the fact that there are people willing to use implants.

Comment author: advancedatheist 06 May 2015 03:00:28PM *  -2 points [-]

I am pretty sure I don't want to replace my eyeballs with mechanical eyes.

If you have vision problems, as I do, those "mechanical eyes" sound interesting.

Fantasy appeals strongly to the adolescent mind because our bodies at that age start to change and develop new powers, so to speak - just not necessarily the kinds of powers we might want; or else our new powers still don't meet the needs of our new desires. Notice especially how fantasy appeals strongly to the sorts of boys who get pushed aside from access to girls until their 20's, or even indefinitely in more cases than we would care to admit.

Comment author: [deleted] 07 May 2015 07:25:04AM 0 points [-]

Notice especially how fantasy appeals strongly to the sorts of boys who get pushed aside from access to girls

But that is self-hating escapism mostly.