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Comment author: knb 06 May 2015 12:34:56AM *  1 point [-]

The movie wasn't very good, even by Marvel superhero movie standards. Did anyone understand Ultron's motivation? It seems like Ultron's logic was:

  1. humans are going to destroy the world
  2. ????????
  3. Therefore I will destroy the world.

Also, I was left wondering about whether Iron Man was going to be financially/criminally liable for the damages Ultron caused.

Comment author: MrMind 06 May 2015 07:05:54AM 1 point [-]

For what I've understood of the movie!Ultron rationale, having as goal peace-keeping, he devised what he thought was a better way to do this than the Avengers itself: instead of maintaining peace by fighting the enemy of peace, do it by evolving a new kind of human being (the project that eventually phyzvangrq jvgu gur nppvqragny perngvba bs gur Ivfvba) and then killing all the older ones.
Screw with the fact that there's no continuity between the latter and the former... :/

Comment author: knb 06 May 2015 07:49:04AM 1 point [-]

do it by evolving a new kind of human being (the project that eventually phyzvangrq jvgu gur nppvqragny perngvba bs gur Ivfvba)

Oh. Thanks. I thought he was just creating a new body for himself.

Comment author: Document 17 May 2016 04:22:53AM 0 points [-]

Bit late, but: IIRC the post-credits scene implies that Ultron was somehow really under Thanos' control, via the Infinity Stone Thanos originally gave to Loki (and/or its corruption/influence via Stark via Wanda Maximoff).

I suppose it might be giving the movie too much credit to argue that Ultron was at no point honestly explaining his plans, but instead saying whatever he expected would confuse and/or demoralize his enemies.

The question of liability is sort of alluded to in the latest movie, Civil War; though the short answer seems to be no.

In the end, the only real answer is always "it's all made up and what you see is what you get".