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Comment author: drethelin 07 May 2015 04:59:14AM 4 points [-]

calm down and stop arguing about someone using the word zero in a hyperbolic fashion. It doesn't matter, you're not convincing anyone, even Jayman probably doesn't actually believe the influence of parents is zero if you asked in a non-confrontational way. And even if he does: it doesn't matter. You're coming somewhere else and arguing about one random guy's views. You're getting really upset and confrontational about it. You're not adding any information and you're constantly talking past everyone else.

Comment author: SanguineEmpiricist 07 May 2015 06:30:27PM *  -2 points [-]

calm down and stop arguing about someone using the word zero in a hyperbolic fashion.

Then we can merely respond to whatever range of the interval you think the utilities are. Read this

http://www.bayesianrisk.com/sample_chapters/Chapter%201%20There%20is%20more%20to%20assessing%20risk%20than%20statistics.pdf

http://www.bayesianrisk.com/sample_chapters/Chapter%202%20The%20need%20for%20causal%20explanatory%20models%20in%20risk%20assessment.pdf

or Risk - A Multidisciplinary Introduction all emphasize non-statistical risk measures. It doesn't matter whether it's zero or not.

"We discuss a simplified view of risk assessment and do not cover decision and utility theory except in passing and to make the point that such theory is not enough without coherent models of the problem situation. Most other books try to present decision the- ory and risk all at once and in a very mathematical way; this can be rather overwhelming."

Alright?

You're not adding any information

False. I have given further resources and people have not talked about them. Not every one is passive.

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