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16 Post author: Sable 06 May 2015 11:51AM

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Comment author: Username 06 May 2015 12:11:45PM 2 points [-]

Respond to this anonymously if you want (with the Username/password account): what are some inappropriate reasons you've upvoted or downvoted something on Less Wrong?

Comment author: Username 06 May 2015 12:15:15PM 10 points [-]

There are some comments which I wouldn't normally upvote or downvote, but if I think they've been upvoted or downvoted disproportionately to their value, I'll try and redress the balance. For example, if someone asks a banal but well-meaning question and it gets downvoted, I'll upvote it.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 06 May 2015 02:31:52PM 4 points [-]

I consider this marginal rather than flat-out inappropriate, but I've upvoted posts to avoid paying a karma penalty for replying to them. Someone I've discussed this with withdraws the upvote (click on the boldface thumb to withdraw a karma point) after having commented.

Comment author: Sable 06 May 2015 12:21:26PM *  3 points [-]

I've mostly tried to avoid upvoting so far, and I've completely avoided downvoting.

My model for upvoting right now is:

  • If I've commented on a post, I should upvote it, because if it was good enough to comment on, then it was good enough to upvote.

  • If a post or comment is particularly well thought-out, well-reasoned, or otherwise showing an understandable mastery of the issue at hand, it's worth considering upvoting it.

  • Don't upvote unless I'm absolutely confident, because I don't want to go skewing the statistics here, and I'm also pretty new at this.

My model for downvoting has been:

  • Don't do it until you know why other people do it (hence this post).

I've also been trying to understand why posts get comments and up/downvotes, but the two don't seem to correlate well. So are there different rules for upvoting comments versus posts?

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 06 May 2015 02:30:00PM 4 points [-]

Some good posts don't get many comments, perhaps because they've covered the subject thoroughly

I think posts are more likely to get a lot of comments if they're controversial or have the effect of encouraging people to talk about personal experience.

Comment author: Username 06 May 2015 02:20:51PM 0 points [-]

There's always going to be a difference between "what criteria for downvoting would make everyone better off" and "what criteria do people actually use". People will downvote to shut up opposing views, not because that's a good reason to downvote, but because dinging someone the -1 karma for an opposing view is more effective than not doing so and nobody's going to stop them.

Comment author: William_Quixote 06 May 2015 03:22:29PM 1 point [-]

I down vote posts I think are bad for the sites reputation / public image. I think people who like controversy or trolling privately benefit from such posts and externalize reputation all harms onto the site overall. I also think people in general benefit from a forum with good members and don't factor in long term reputational effects. I use karma to help people internalize these better.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 07 May 2015 08:42:33AM *  1 point [-]

Is civil, well argued disagreement bad for the site's reputation?

Comment author: bbleeker 07 May 2015 09:27:57AM 2 points [-]

It shouldn't be. It's one of the things I love about the site.