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Comment author: advancedatheist 11 May 2015 12:48:52AM *  -1 points [-]

Transhumanism-related blog posts:

In Praise of Life (Let’s Ditch the Cult of Longevity)

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/05/08/in-praise-of-life-lets-ditch-the-cult-of-longevity/

Overcoming Bias: Why Not?

http://futurisms.thenewatlantis.com/2015/05/overcoming-bias-why-not.html

Also noteworthy:

Prepping for cataclysms, neglecting ordinary emergencies

http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2015/05/prepping-for-cataclysms-neglecting.html

Interesting books:

A cryonics novel:

The New World: A Novel Hardcover – May 5, 2015 by Chris Adrian (Author), Eli Horowitz (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/New-World-Novel-Chris-Adrian/dp/0374221812

Futurology, from the looks of it:

Tomorrowland: Our Journey from Science Fiction to Science Fact Paperback – May 12, 2015 by Steven Kotler (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/Tomorrowland-Journey-Science-Fiction-Fact/dp/0544456211/

Cryonics news:

Another of cryonics' founding generation goes into cryo, though under really bad circumstances.

Dr. Laurence Pilgeram becomes Alcor’s 135th patient on April 15, 2015

http://www.amazon.com/Tomorrowland-Journey-Science-Fiction-Fact/dp/0544456211/

Comment author: ZankerH 11 May 2015 06:31:50AM 14 points [-]

Despite medical and police personnel aware of his Alcor bracelet, he was taken to the medical examiner’s office in Santa Barbara, as they did not understand Alcor’s process and assumed that the circumstances surrounding his death would pre-empt any possible donation directives. Since this all transpired late on a Friday evening, Alcor was not notified of the incident until the following Monday morning.

How the hell are they treating this as a successful preservation? The body spent two days "warm and dead".

Looking at their past case reports, this seems to be fairly normal. Unless you're dying of a known terminal condition and go die in their hospice in Arizona, odds are the only thing getting froze is a mindless, decaying corpse.

Comment author: advancedatheist 11 May 2015 02:32:07PM 10 points [-]

Cryonicist Ben Best has put a lot of effort into studying and testing personal alarm gadgets you can wear which signal cardiac arrest to try to reduce the incidence of these unattended deanimations and long delays before cryopreservation. I plan to look into those myself.

Ironically, I've noticed that cryonicists talk a lot about how much they believe in scientific, medical and technological progress, but then they don't seem to want to act on it when you present them with evidence of the correctable deficiencies of real, existing cryonics.

Reference:

Personal Alarm Systems for Cryonicists

http://www.benbest.com/cryonics/alarms.html