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Comment author: OrphanWilde 11 May 2015 03:17:40PM *  2 points [-]

Ratonalism as part of identity (aspiring rationalist) is kind of dangerous.

[Edited formatting] Strongly agree. http://lesswrong.com/lw/huk/emotional_basilisks/ is an experiment I ran which demonstrates the issue. Eliezer was unable to -consider- the hypothetical; it "had" to be fought.

The reason being, the hypothetical implies a contradiction in rationality as Eliezer defines it; if rationalism requires atheism, and atheism doesn't "win" as well as religion, then the "rationality is winning" definition Eliezer uses breaks; suddenly rationality, via winning, can require irrational behavior. Less Wrong has a -massive- blind spot where rationality is concerned; for a web site which spends a significant amount of time discussing how to update "correctness" algorithms, actually posing challenges to "correctness" algorithms is one of the quickest ways to shut somebody's brain down and put them in a reactionary mode.

Comment author: ChristianKl 11 May 2015 04:25:40PM 0 points [-]

if rationalism requires atheism

I don't think that's argued. It's also worth noting that the majority of MIRI's funding over it's history comes from a theist.