Ishaan comments on Open Thread, May 18 - May 24, 2015 - Less Wrong Discussion
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That I find something pretentious is my moral/aesthetic judgement. Evaluating the effectiveness of dark arts techniques is an entirely different question.
Speaking of signaling, pretentiousness means you tried to signal and failed.
Why is it dark? Doesn't it have to be a drawback in order to be dark? (agreed about pretentiousness=signal failure)
All actions have a drawback, in at least the form of opportunity costs.
It's dark because it's manipulation. You are pushing buttons in other people's minds to achieve a certain outcome.
All interactions involving people involve pushing buttons for outcomes.
Negative-connotation-Manipulation is when you do it in ways that they would not approve of it if they realized exactly what you were doing. The ice bucket challenge for example does exactly what it says on the tin - raise awareness, raise money, have social activity.
I disagree.