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9 Post author: Stuart_Armstrong 26 May 2015 02:41PM

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Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 28 May 2015 09:10:43PM 1 point [-]

Not disagreeing, but I repeat that the hypothesis that 1945/1953 represent turning points is not unreasonable. and should be tested directly.

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 28 May 2015 10:41:43PM *  1 point [-]

What does "turning point" mean in the context of a power law distribution?

Comment author: gwern 29 May 2015 12:31:40AM *  2 points [-]

The simplest power law , a*x^k has two parameters which govern the overall location and the fatness of tails, I think. You could expect a change in either or both. So you could fit a time-series model in which a and k can change each year by an amount drawn from a distribution, and then see whether the data supports a large net change since 1945? This is what I take Stuart as suggesting.

Comment author: ChristianKl 29 May 2015 04:22:05PM 1 point [-]

The problem is that you can't estimate 'k' well enough, at least that's what Taleb argues at various places.

Comment author: gwern 29 May 2015 09:23:55PM 3 points [-]

The available data must support some range of ks, some precision, and if allowing any shift of k over time indicates that k has fallen a lot lately, that's pretty bad for their theory. If they say you should ignore the data, then they're doing theology.

Comment author: ChristianKl 30 May 2015 12:15:47AM 1 point [-]

The point is range of ks is quite large. That's what Taleb's work as a professor of Risk Engineering is about.

Comment author: gwern 30 May 2015 01:36:11AM 2 points [-]

If the range of ks is large then the posterior probability of a shift (or to put it another way, the estimated probability that pre-WWII ks differ from post-WWII ks) will be appropriately small and Taleb will have demonstrated what he wants to demonstrate without so much rhetoric and an analysis that largely misses the point.