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lululu comments on A Proposal for Defeating Moloch in the Prison Industrial Complex - Less Wrong Discussion

23 Post author: lululu 02 June 2015 10:03PM

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Comment author: polymathwannabe 02 June 2015 10:23:27PM 11 points [-]

Obvious, but worth mentioning: the recidivism index should not count the prisoners who didn't commit any more crimes because they died after they were released; otherwise it would appear lower than its actual value (and would create a hideous incentive).

I can see this system creating pressure to relax parole standards; if a minor deviance from the rules is not counted as recidivism, both the prison and the prisoner benefit.

Comment author: lululu 02 June 2015 11:58:08PM *  0 points [-]

A very good point! If someone dies, I guess their expected recidivism rate should drop to zero so as not to affect the rate that the prison is targeting.

And I wonder what the incentives are for parole boards and officers? Who controls regulations, bonuses, and promotions for this group? This is definitely something worth researching.

Comment author: TsviBT 03 June 2015 12:17:19AM 7 points [-]

This still incentivizes prisons to help along the death of prisoners that they predict are more likely then the prison-wide average to repeat-offend, in the same way average utilitarianism recommends killing everyone but the happiest person (so to speak).

Comment author: lululu 03 June 2015 12:51:15AM 2 points [-]

Hmmm, yes. Yikes. Additional thought needed.

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 03 June 2015 05:11:01AM -1 points [-]

This still incentivizes prisons to help along the death of prisoners that they predict are more likely then the prison-wide average to repeat-offend

Wow, that sounds like a feature.