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Davidmanheim comments on Perceptual Entropy and Frozen Estimates - Less Wrong Discussion

10 Post author: Davidmanheim 03 June 2015 07:27PM

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Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 03 June 2015 08:30:21PM 0 points [-]

This image sequence is strange. Or maybe I am strange. By now I have played with it quite a bit. And for me it is not easy to see the man in the picture until image 7. The image stops clearly looking like a man about at image 4. And going the reverse the women stops looking clearly like a women about at panel six. I can follow the man along longer but it means to consciously disregard the other aspects. In a meditation-like state I can perceive the whole of the man in image 7 and almost in 8 and in reverse alike. But I have to defocus, not stare and be more dreamy.

Note that I can flip this http://www.youramazingbrain.org.uk/images/supersenses/young_or_old.jpg and this http://www.youramazingbrain.org.uk/images/supersenses/necker_cube.gif (the latter takes about 3 seconds to flip.

Comment author: Davidmanheim 03 June 2015 08:34:45PM 1 point [-]

The trick is to look at them in sequence, one at a time; an animated gif might have been better in some ways.

In either case, the image works better on one line rather than 2, which I have, but can't upload. When I cross-post this to the LA Rationality Blog (once it's working,) the image will be on one line.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 03 June 2015 09:01:07PM *  0 points [-]

Of course I did look at them in sequence - otherwise I have even more difficulty to see either. Jumping back and forth. But the key point is that for me the overlapping/freezing you mention doesn't seem to occur.