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Comment author: Lumifer 15 June 2015 05:17:39PM 5 points [-]

So does spreading rationality contribute to Effective Altruism? I certainly think so

That's a personal anecdote, not data. Do you have evidence?

getting people to think rationally about themselves and their interactions with the world and use evidence-based means to evaluate reality and make their decisions will result in people applying these methods of thinking to their altruism.

It might, but the consequences are not obvious :-/ For example, I can easily see someone who, on realizing that his past charitable giving was all about sending signals to his social circle, decides just to stop doing it and spend the money on, say, self-learning resources.

Altruism is, basically, a value and rationality does not tell you which values you should have.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 16 June 2015 02:44:47AM *  -1 points [-]

Regard whether spreading rationality contributes to EA directly, I do not have evidence in the sense of data, only in the sense of logic. From a probabilistic thinking perspective, getting people to think more rationally, in an evidence-based manner, about their charitable giving would be likely to lead them to give more effectively, and the EA movement is the best outlet for such charitable giving. I agree there is a danger of the kind you describe about social circle signaling, but we can't be sure without actually testing this with experiments and getting actual evidence about what the world looks like.

Furthermore, as Brian Tomasik describes in his essay, getting people to think more rationally would result in people having better lives overall and flourishing, which is the point of the EA movement as a whole.

So spreading rationality would certainly contribute to the outcome desired by the EA movement, of global flourishing and well-being. I'd also say it would be likely to contribute to the EA movement in particular itself, per my first statement above, but that's a matter of experimenting.