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2 Post author: Gleb_Tsipursky 14 June 2015 12:31AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 17 June 2015 07:48:08PM *  1 point [-]

For example, I can easily see someone who, on realizing that his past charitable giving was all about sending signals to his social circle, decides just to stop doing it and spend the money on, say, self-learning resources.

Yes this about sounds like me and most people I know, except that we were not giving at all to begin with, but if we did, it would have been signalling.

I don't 100% understand the usual emotional reasons beyond charitable giving. I do get that in the US or parts of it, social pressure and status plays a role.

But probably a more scalable basis is feeling you have a surplus. To scale it up and out, to different cultures etc. you need to convince people they have a surplus they don't need.

One thing that would really help there is if it was really true.

Alternatively, low unit of measure charities. I.e. those who can do something useful with a unit as little as 5-10 dollars/euros. So that contributors feel they did not just add to the sum that makes something happen but they personally did a person something good.

Comment author: Lumifer 17 June 2015 07:53:33PM 1 point [-]

I do get that in the US or parts of it, social pressure and status plays a role.

Connect the dots to the widespread I-truly-believe Christianity in the US. A LOT of charitable giving in the US is driven by religion.

Comment author: [deleted] 17 June 2015 08:19:55PM 1 point [-]

Yes, but at LW it is remarkable that a bunch of atheists did not even ask whether one should be altruist at all but went straight to how to do it effectively. It went without saying that you are still an altruist. Hypothesis:feeling of surplus.

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 22 June 2015 05:58:40AM 2 points [-]

If you give a nerd a sufficiently interesting optimization problem, in any domain, he will start trying to figure out how to optimize it without asking if that this the right thing to optimize. This is a special case of nerd sniping.