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31 Post author: malcolmocean 15 June 2015 10:58PM

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Comment author: malcolmocean 16 June 2015 06:15:44AM 1 point [-]

Glad you guys like the name. I spent quite awhile and tried out some other ones before that one stuck.

I think that classical cargo-culting is indeed quite different from pattern-botching, but when you have people who know better doing something cargo-cult-like, then that's likely an instance of pattern-botching.

Comment author: Lumifer 16 June 2015 02:32:03PM 0 points [-]

when you have people who know better doing something cargo-cult-like

Like Feynman's description of cargo-cult science? I suspect it's mostly the result of a particular set of incentives which are structured to reward the cargo-cult visible manifestations and ignore actual work.

Comment author: malcolmocean 16 June 2015 03:46:36PM *  1 point [-]

Yeah, I was thinking about that. I think lots of people (the students, for example) don't actually know better. But among those who do, yeah, I would say that the incentives are the cause of the object-level behaviour where they're not doing real science, and the pattern-botching is the mental process where they don't notice that they're not doing real science.