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What is a subjective quality if not a "quality of [someone's] relation to [something]"?
I can run an objective experiment where I tell people in hypnosis that the lemon tastes sweet. Given good hypnosis subject the result will be that a bunch of the people do feel the qualia of sweetness in relation to the lemon.
Well OK. I'm not sure if what I think we're talking about is what you think we're talking about. I'm wondering if there's any difference between a subjective quality of a thing and an "objective quality of a relation" between a subject and a thing. Is this what your hypothetical is meant to be addressing?
It's subjective if it's the relationship that you have to something. It's objective if you talk about the relationship someone else has with something.
So you could say that its being a subjective relation to you is not an objective relation between you and the object? Or is it?