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Comment author: SilentCal 08 July 2015 04:30:35PM 7 points [-]

A large-scale social experiment in the form of a MMOG to recreate dynamics of feudalism, possibly intensified by being bet upon.

  • There are a fixed number of castles in the game. Each castle has one owner at a given time.
  • A castle provides a steady income to its owner. This is the only source of in-game money.
  • A group of players can jointly attack a castle. If they defeat the current owner and any allied players in in-game combat, a pre-specified member of the attackers becomes the new owner.
  • The game does not provide contract enforcement mechanisms. You can recruit an attacking army by promising them a share of the castle's income, but they only have your word you'll follow through.
  • (optional) A monthly payout is distributed in proportion to in-game wealth. If the game were widely played, and wealth were highly concentrated, this could be very significant for some. Failing this, soft messaging such as leaderboards encourages amassing wealth as a goal.

The idea would be to see the coalition dynamics that play out. My suspicion is that people would at first try egalitarian coalitions to share income evenly, but over time things would get more and more hierarchical as established coalitions started admitting 'junior partners' on worse terms.

Comment author: Lumifer 08 July 2015 04:36:16PM *  16 points [-]

EVE already works sufficiently like that.

Comment author: SilentCal 08 July 2015 06:06:25PM 2 points [-]

Interesting, never played it. What's the typical structure of dominant alliances?

Comment author: Lumifer 08 July 2015 06:13:13PM 13 points [-]

"The best way to describe running an Eve alliance is like being a CEO of a major multinational company, except nobody gets paid but a shit ton of work still has to get done." :-)

Basically it's weakly hierarchical -- you can't really compel anyone to do anything, but you can set up a system of incentives to persuade people to do what you want. Don't think there's much egalitarianism because a corp needs to function effectively and direct democracy does not scale.

Comment author: SilentCal 08 July 2015 06:55:06PM *  4 points [-]

Holy crap, this really does what I imagined.

ETA: When you first replied, I was afraid that the rules had been implemented and the results weren't that interesting. But reading that AMA makes it clear the results are fascinating.

Comment author: Lumifer 08 July 2015 07:07:36PM 4 points [-]

results are fascinating

Actually, they are even more fascinating :-)

On the other hand, it's all just like real life X-D