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Comment author: DanArmak 08 July 2015 11:37:03AM 3 points [-]

If we live in a non-simulated universe, (almost) any claim of any religion can still be true. It's just so astronomically unlikely that we shouldn't spend any time considering it. (See: Pascal's Wager.)

How are ems different? A uniform prior over all possible religions isn't useful. What evidence would they have, from the mere fact of being in a simulation, that any particular set of religious claims is likely, aside from the bare claim "there are Simulators but we don't know anything about them except that they want our universe to be simulated"?

Comment author: jacob_cannell 08 July 2015 08:27:30PM 2 points [-]

Across the multiverse, some universes support life, and some of those features civs which create lots of sims. Given that our physics seems to support enormous numbers of sim universes per basement universe, most of the copies of ourselves are probably in sims.

Realizing that, there is a general convergent strategy that we should precommit to: in the future when we have the power we should 'win the sims arms race' so to speak and create many sims of our past. In this way we ensure that our sim is benevolent.

These kinds of game-theoretic convergent considerations deeply effect the distribution over sim scenarios, and they do suggest what kinds of religious/metaphysical theories are more or less likely to be true.

General resurrection - as in the book religions (zoraster/judaic/christian/islam), is a high likelihood cluster, as it naturally falls out of the whole use future sim power to defeat death strategy mentioned earlier. Basically, we want the god above to be aligned to our values, and we can best achieve this by expending sim power in the future.