You're looking at Less Wrong's discussion board. This includes all posts, including those that haven't been promoted to the front page yet. For more information, see About Less Wrong.

passive_fist comments on Crazy Ideas Thread - Less Wrong Discussion

22 Post author: Gunnar_Zarncke 07 July 2015 09:40PM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (344)

You are viewing a single comment's thread. Show more comments above.

Comment author: passive_fist 12 July 2015 09:21:53PM 1 point [-]

Mass production wouldn't necessarily make them less expensive than they already are. During the cold war the USA and USSR effectively mass-produced thousands of warheads. Official cost estimates for the manufacture cost aren't available but it seems that the US government managed to bring the cost of plutonium down from about $100,000/g to $500/g or so (The price of plutonium for civilians using it for chemistry purposes is currently around ten times that, however, and it's obviously an extremely restricted and regulated substance). A nuclear weapon needs about 2 kg of plutonium minimum, so that's about $1,000,000 per warhead at the very least.

Comment author: Thomas 12 July 2015 11:08:24PM 0 points [-]

It's a bargain. Even one billion US$ per day for the bombs, would be like nothing. We are talking about the energy output comparable with all the others (coal, oil, gas, nuclear, hydro ...) combined!

Comment author: passive_fist 12 July 2015 11:49:55PM 2 points [-]

Not necessarily. Plutonium has about 90 TJ/kg energy density. At $500/g, that comes out to about 180 MJ/$, or 2 c/kWh. That's only a bit below half of coal's 4.63 c/kWh. And this is only for the fuel! If you were to go the all-plutonium route, it would probably wind up being more expensive than coal.

High-yield fusion would be another matter.

Comment author: Thomas 13 July 2015 10:51:30AM *  0 points [-]

You have to have fusion. With fision you have to clean too much.

And the OP wanted the fusion as well.