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PhoenixComplex7 comments on Beware the Nihilistic Failure Mode - Less Wrong Discussion

6 Post author: Gram_Stone 09 July 2015 03:31PM

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Comment author: [deleted] 09 July 2015 04:36:02PM *  1 point [-]

I've noticed that people tend to resort to the above, and then cease theorizing about those class of questions, rather than follow their own line of thinking back out of the hole it lead them into. If you follow the concepts that it entails, you either off yourself ( :( ) or end up meandering through life anyway.

And there is the next question, which is stated in the sequences. What do you do anyway, if you had no morality or epistemic compass?

I doubt very many who take a nihilistic route manage to stay in the conversation about it for long, or if they do they lose coherency. Either way the proposition seems null (pardon) at a glance, excepting any casualties it costs us.

Comment author: Gram_Stone 09 July 2015 04:47:31PM 4 points [-]

Whenever people tell me that there exists nothing of value, I ask them why they're so damned motivated to tell me about it.

Comment author: [deleted] 09 July 2015 05:03:24PM *  1 point [-]

I had a friend that was fairly confused about morality, although he was a decent person. He would only bring up thoughts that were adjacent to nihilistic concepts when a conversation was already going. He never bought into them, but I think he's still kinda epistemically paralyzed.

It is fairly obvious in his case that he feels like i.e. saving the world might be/is most likely impossible, although he hasn't verbally confirmed it. Meh. He's caught between just kinda living as he wants to and a vague, lonely concept that something more is possible and worthwhile.

I'm not coherent with my knowledge of morality enough to pull him out of it for sure, and so I haven't really tried. Potentially divisive conversations, and all. : /