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Clarity comments on I need a protocol for dangerous or disconcerting ideas. - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: jimrandomh 12 July 2015 03:39:47AM 9 points [-]

The next mistake was opening the door to solipsism and Brain-in-a-Vat arguments. This was so traumatic to me that I spent years in a manic depression.

Consider the possibility that the manic-depression was coincidental. When people have mental things happen for fundamentally biochemical reasons, they often misattribute them to the most plausible seeming non-biochemical cause they can think of. Exposure to ideas can exacerbate an existing problem, but it is unlikely that the lowest-hanging here has anything at all to do with the ideas themselves. Instead of looking at how you engage with stressful ideas, consider looking into other aspects of your life which might reduce your resilience.

With that said...

You started with a set of values and preferences and an ontology. When you encountered dust theory, you discovered that one of the definitions used to define your values - the notion of personal identity - wasn't fully coherent. You then tried to substitute a different definition in its place - an alternative notion of personal identity, which might not carry across a sleep/wake cycle. This alternate notion of identity is not the thing you care about. A small philosophically-minded portion of your brain has decided that it is what you care about, and is now in conflict with the other parts of your brain which don't accept the altered values. Listen to them; while those brain-parts aren't good at explaining things, they have knowledge and in this case they are right.

Comment author: Clarity 12 July 2015 04:17:31PM *  0 points [-]

Replies to the comment you are now reading accurately describe my ideas so the original post has been replaced by this disclaimer to spare your time :)

Comment author: drethelin 12 July 2015 11:00:18PM 0 points [-]

How would the app know? You would need some sort of automatic system that scans every parking spot to see if there is a car currently in it.

Comment author: faul_sname 13 July 2015 10:03:48AM 0 points [-]

How difficult would this be, out of curiosity, keeping in mind that you don't need 100% accuracy? I can think of a couple approaches, though probably nothing that would be supported by any revenue model I can think of off the top of my head.

Comment author: Clarity 13 July 2015 03:07:22AM 0 points [-]

or just crowdsource it :)

Comment author: drethelin 13 July 2015 04:33:16AM 0 points [-]

This is putting the cart before the horse. A crowdsourced app that requires user to report ACCURATELY which parking spots are free when will only work when it has a lot of users. But it can't get users unless it's a useful app.