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Liso comments on I need a protocol for dangerous or disconcerting ideas. - Less Wrong Discussion

3 Post author: Eitan_Zohar 12 July 2015 01:58AM

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Comment author: Liso 13 July 2015 04:43:13AM 0 points [-]

You are talking about rationality and about fear. Your protocol could have several independent layers. You seems to think that your ideas produce your fear, but it could be also opposite. Your fear could produce your ideas (and it is definitely very probable that fear has impact on your ideas (at least on contents)). So you could analyze rational questions on lesswrong and independently solve your irrational part (=fear etc) with terapeuts. There could be physical or chemical reasons why you are concerning more than other people. Your protocol for dangerous ideas needs not only discussing it but also solve your emotional responses. If you like to sleep well then it could depend more on your emotional stability than on rational knowledge.

Comment author: Eitan_Zohar 13 July 2015 05:47:42AM *  0 points [-]

What sort of therapy would work for me? Ruminating is probably the main cause of it. Now that I've refuted my current fears, I find that I can't wrench the quantum world out of my head. Everything I feel is now tainted by DT.

Comment author: Liso 17 July 2015 05:40:30AM 0 points [-]

I am not expert. And it has to be based on facts about your neurosystem. So you could start with several experiments (blod tests etc). You could change diet, sleep more etc.

About rationality and lesswrong -> could you focus your fears to one thing? For example forgot quantum world and focus to superintelligence? I mean could you utilize the power you have in your brain?

Comment author: Eitan_Zohar 17 July 2015 06:25:31AM 0 points [-]

About rationality and lesswrong -> could you focus your fears to one thing? For example forgot quantum world and focus to superintelligence? I mean could you utilize the power you have in your brain?

Heh, no. I can't direct it.

Comment author: 27chaos 15 July 2015 05:39:24AM 0 points [-]

You've mentioned you have a history of inventing arguments with disturbing implications. Have you ever tried to intentionally invent an argument with reassuring implications?

Comment author: Eitan_Zohar 15 July 2015 06:39:41AM 0 points [-]

It's never intentional for me. They just click into place one day and drive me into a frenzy.

Comment author: 27chaos 15 July 2015 08:03:54AM *  0 points [-]

The disturbing arguments might be accidents, but maybe you could create reassuring arguments on purpose? Why let bias or coincidence alone determine the outcome of your reasoning processes, when you can aim towards strategic targets instead?

Comment author: Eitan_Zohar 15 July 2015 12:29:17PM 0 points [-]

Like what? Most of my targets are the already-existing crises, and it is completely arbitrary how long it takes to find a solution.

Comment author: 27chaos 16 July 2015 04:01:35AM 0 points [-]

I would suggest Taoism, Buddhism, and Stoicism as potentially useful avenues of thought for you to pursue.