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On the Galactic Zoo hypothesis

-8 Post author: estimator 16 July 2015 07:12PM

Recently, I was reading some arguments about Fermi paradox and aliens and so on; also there was an opinion among the lines of "humans are monsters and any sane civilization avoids them, that's why Galactic Zoo". As implausible as it is, but I've found one more or less sane scenario where it might be true.

Assume that intelligence doesn't always imply consciousness, and assume that evolution processes are more likely to yield intelligent, but unconscious life forms, rather than intelligent and conscious. For example, if consciousness is resource-consuming and otherwise almost useless (as in Blindsight).

Now imagine that all the alien species evolved without consciousness. Being an important coordination tool, their moral system takes that into account -- it relies on a trait that they have -- intelligence, rather than consciousness. For example, they consider destroying anything capable of performing complex computations immoral.

Then human morality system would be completely blind to them. Killing such an alien would be no more immoral, then, say, recycling a computer. So, for these aliens, human race would be indeed monstrous.

The aliens consider extermination of an entire civilization immoral, since that would imply destroying a few billions of devices, capable of performing complex enough computations. So they decide to use their advanced technology to render their civilizations invisible for human scientists.

Comments (19)

Comment author: jacob_cannell 16 July 2015 08:46:20PM 6 points [-]

Assume that intelligence doesn't always imply consciousness

Taboo 'consciousness', and attempt to make that assumption still work.

So they decide to use their advanced technology to render their civilizations invisible for human scientists.

The feasibility of this idea is inversely proportional to the resource expenditure required to remain invisible. It is more likely that - if aliens exist - that they are naturally mostly-invisible as a result of computational optimization into compact cold dark arcilects. If stealth/invisibility plays a role, they are more likely to be hiding from other powerful civs rather than us.

Comment author: Locaha 17 July 2015 07:01:07AM 1 point [-]

Taboo 'consciousness', and attempt to make that assumption still work.

Taboo 'intelligence' as well.

Comment author: Unknowns 17 July 2015 02:40:04AM 7 points [-]

The main problem with this is that it says that human beings are extremely unlike all nearby alien races. But if you willing to admit that humanity is that unique you might as well say that intelligence only evolved on earth, which is a much simpler and more likely hypothesis.

Comment author: shminux 16 July 2015 08:23:36PM 2 points [-]

Are your aliens p-zombies?

Comment author: Vaniver 16 July 2015 08:30:19PM 1 point [-]

I thought the defining feature of being a p-zombie was acting as if they had consciousness while not "actually" having it, whereas these aliens act as though they did not have consciousness.

(I think a generic and global intelligence-valuation ethos is very unlikely to arise, and so I think there are other reasons to dislike this formulation of the Galactic Zoo.)

Comment author: pragmatist 17 July 2015 04:09:39AM 0 points [-]

I thought the defining feature of being a p-zombie was acting as if they had consciousness while not "actually" having it

It's more than just a matter of behavior. P-zombies are supposed to be physically indistinguishable from human beings in every respect while still lacking consciousness.

Comment author: estimator 16 July 2015 09:07:25PM 0 points [-]

Why do you think it is unlikely? I think any simple criterion which separates aliens from environment would suffice.

Personally, I think that the scenario is implausible for the other reason: human moral system would easily adapt to such aliens. People sometimes personify things that aren't remotely sentient, let alone aliens who would actually act as sentient/conscious beings.

The other reason is that I consider sentience without consciousness relatively implausible.

Comment author: Vaniver 16 July 2015 09:38:28PM *  2 points [-]

Why do you think it is unlikely?

Basically, the hierarchical control model of intelligence, which sees 'intelligence' as trying to maintain some perception at some reference level by actuating the environment. (Longer explanation here.) If you have multiple control systems, and they have different reference levels, then they will get into 'conflict', much like a tug of war.

That is, simple intelligence looks like it leads to rivalry rather than cooperation by default, and so valuing intelligence rather than alignment seems weird; there's not a clear path that leads from nothing to there.

Comment author: estimator 16 July 2015 09:48:33PM 0 points [-]

Makes sense.

Anyway, any trait which isn't consciousness (and obviously it wouldn't be consciousness) would suffice, provided there is some reason to hide from Earth rather than destroy it.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 16 July 2015 11:13:39PM 1 point [-]

"humans are monsters and any sane civilization avoids them, that's why Galactic Zoo"

Isn't the Galactic Zoo hypothesis based on wanting to maintain the humans in their primitive habitat, and not interfere with the "natural" development?

It's not that we're horrible monsters that need to be avoided. The Earth is just a nature preserve.

Comment author: estimator 17 July 2015 01:20:00AM 0 points [-]

It is; and actually it is a more plausible scenario. Aliens surely may want it; like humans do both in fiction and reality -- for example, see the First directive in Star Trek and the practice of sterilizing rovers before sending them to other planets in real life.

I, however, investigated that particular flavor of the Zoo hypotheses it the post.

Comment author: tim 17 July 2015 04:13:14AM -2 points [-]

There's this extremely intelligent alien species that has evolved a distinct sense of morality very similar to our own, just more rigid. So rigid that they are incapable of even comprehending the way we might think. And we view killing them just as we view recycling computers.

What happens next?