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CellBioGuy comments on I have just donated $10,000 to the Immortality Bus, which was the most rational decision of my life - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: CellBioGuy 19 July 2015 01:06:40AM *  5 points [-]

What makes that 2024 thing even remotely theoretically possible?

Comment author: James_Miller 19 July 2015 04:10:02PM *  4 points [-]

Zoltan is articulate, extremely good looking, and willing to put in a lot of work to become president. Imagine one or both of the major U.S. political parties becomes discredited and Zoltan gets significant financial support from a high-tech billionaire. He could then have a non-trivial chance of becoming president, although the odds of this ever happening is still under .1%.

Comment author: CellBioGuy 20 July 2015 04:09:32PM *  4 points [-]

But what he talks about is completely unaligned with what 99% of the electorate gives half a shit about. Even though I suppose recent political-theater events in the united states proves that giving off a strong crackpot vibe is not an automatic disqualification, there is that to contend with.

Comment author: gjm 20 July 2015 05:08:39PM 0 points [-]

I'd guess less than 5% chance for each major party to get discredited, maybe 50% chance that after that a high-tech billionaire decides it's a good time to try to shape politics, maybe a 2% chance that s/he chooses Zoltan, and no more than a 20% chance that Zoltan wins after all that happens. I make that about a 0.0005% chance, being quite generous.

So, yeah, "remotely theoretically possible" is about as far as it goes.

Comment author: Lumifer 20 July 2015 05:39:43PM 1 point [-]

Billionaires attempt to shape politics right now and I don't see why would they stop. I think that the 50% chance is actually a 100% chance. However the probability of choosing specifically Zoltan I would estimate as considerably less than 2%.

Comment author: James_Miller 20 July 2015 05:26:09PM 0 points [-]

maybe 50% chance that after that a high-tech billionaire decides it's a good time to try to shape politics

If both parties become discredited I say at least 80% chance that more than one high-tech billionaire will try to shape politics, but otherwise a good estimate.

Comment author: Lumifer 20 July 2015 04:15:59PM 0 points [-]

He could then have a non-trivial chance of becoming president, although the odds of this ever happening is still under .1%.

A chance under 0.1% sounds trivial to me.