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CellBioGuy comments on I have just donated $10,000 to the Immortality Bus, which was the most rational decision of my life - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: CellBioGuy 19 July 2015 01:15:20AM *  14 points [-]

"Appearing as a 40-foot coffin, the Immortality Bus will roll down American highways stopping at rallies and events, instigating the kind of clashes and debates that this country (and the world) needs to challenge archaic cultural ideals that are holding science, technology, and medicine back."

"To do all we hope to do, we need to buy the bus and make it look like a coffin. But we need more too: We want a life-sized, interactive robot on board, drones following us, a biohacking lab for experimenting on ourselves, Virtual Reality equipment, lots of public event materials, and, of course, fuel."

"We'll continue in the Bible Belt and visit megachurches, hoping to covert the religious to reason and transhumanism (and showing that formal religion and greatly extended lifespans can happily co-exist). In Detroit, we'll visit factories where robots have taken jobs (and ask our own trainable robot Jethro Knights, what he thinks). In Massachusetts, we'll stop at MIT and get chip implants"

... ... this is a bad reality show for personal promotion, nothing more and nothing less. It's not even a good one. I just showed the indiegogo page to a friend who literally called it 'facepunch worthy'.

Comment author: V_V 19 July 2015 06:59:47AM 9 points [-]

"Zoltan Istvan is a man on a mission to end death. ... For whatever it's worth, Zoltan has been involved in extreme adventures his entire life, and is the inventor of volcano boarding (which is just like it sounds)."

I sense an inconsistency.

Comment author: Yosarian2 20 July 2015 09:22:38PM 3 points [-]

Not necessarily. I've heard some people describe the effort to end aging like this: "The goal isn't to live forever. The goal is to live to the age of 250 with the body of a 25 year old and then die in a freak skydiving accident."

Comment author: [deleted] 19 July 2015 04:10:47AM 2 points [-]

Let me know when they stop by Massachusetts, as I want to ask them how and why they think one can put forward a positive vision for a transhuman future based on Ayn "even children with copies of evil overlords in their heads don't fall for her shit" Rand.

Comment author: CellBioGuy 19 July 2015 08:13:56AM *  5 points [-]

I managed to briefly see a copy of the book. It would've been a hilarious parody of so many things if it weren't actually goddamned serious.

Edit: Seriously, it's like a Chick Tract had a child with Randian fantasy and bad self-insert Mary Sue fanfiction while coating itself in the accoutrements of science fiction.

Comment author: Vaniver 19 July 2015 03:25:31PM 4 points [-]

Ayn "even children with copies of evil overlords in their heads don't fall for her shit" Rand

Fictional evidence, much?

Comment author: [deleted] 20 July 2015 01:18:07PM 1 point [-]

Fictional evidence as a joke, on top of what I'd consider loads and loads of real-world evidence.

Comment author: [deleted] 19 July 2015 02:37:18AM *  1 point [-]

This type of controversy can actually be a sound marketing strategy if you can use the moment in the spot light to get your message out. The problem here being that this is being done in such a weird way that you immediately taint your brand by doing it.