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Comment author: gjm 07 August 2015 09:33:30AM *  1 point [-]

Unless you regularly interact with [...]

Could you briefly describe your own interactions with that segment of the population?

I note that none of them are actually examples of incentives.

I'd say they're about as much so as your example of alleged-rape-victim policy. (E.g., if you teach teenagers that they must be sexually abstinent and make it clear that any sexual non-abstinence is disapproved of, you intend to give an incentive not to have sex, but you also give an incentive not to have contraceptives, and then when other deeper-rooted incentives lead them to have sex after all they do it unprotected.)

I merely applied your epistemology to a slightly different domain

Nope, you applied a straw-man version of my epistemology to a very different domain.

Frankly, I have a hard time believing [...]

Noted. I don't see why that should make it impossible to answer my questions.

(It seems to me that all kinds of individual things in the brain can get messed up, so it would be rather unsurprising if individual things related to sex/gender did; and that since a lot of sex-related things are surely controlled together (after all, in typical men and typical women they go together) it would not be surprising if they could go wrong together.)

[EDITED to fix a trivial typo.]

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 08 August 2015 12:08:19AM 2 points [-]

Could you briefly describe your own interactions with that segment of the population?

Not much either, which is why I don't cite my experience as evidence.

it would not be surprising if they could go wrong together.)

Agreed, and they sometimes do. However when they go wrong together, they effect both brain and body.

Comment author: gjm 08 August 2015 12:53:00AM 1 point [-]

when they go wrong together, they affect both brain and body

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I was conjecturing that there may be single changes in brain development that affect multiple sex-related things in the brain; if so, it would be unsurprising for those things to go wrong together even without changes elsewhere in the body.

Should I take it that you don't intend to answer the questions I asked at the end of the great-great-grandparent of this comment? Of course you're under no sort of obligation to answer any questions at all, but I do find it quite interesting how consistently unwilling you are to clarify your statements and opinions in this discussion.