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Dorikka comments on Wear a Helmet While Driving a Car - Less Wrong Discussion

47 Post author: James_Miller 30 July 2015 04:36PM

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Comment author: Dorikka 31 July 2015 12:48:24AM 4 points [-]

Was looking at this in the past, a couple of thoughts. 1. Some articles seem to indicate that repetitive impacts as small as 10g may have cumulative effect. By increasing the effective diameter of the skull, helmets may increase thr likelihood of impact by reducing the necessary angular displacement for the head ro collide with back of seat. As materials of many helmets are tuned for more severe impacts, they may not offer meaningful protection in this domain. 2. Do helmets reduce peripheral vision?

Comment author: James_Miller 31 July 2015 01:02:11AM 4 points [-]

The Crasche hat does not reduce peripheral vision. You can't see it (without a mirror) when it's on your head. The hat is very thin, and the protective material has rubber on the side facing your head and something very strong on the other. You raise valid objections to wearing normal helmets while driving.

Comment author: Lumifer 31 July 2015 01:53:38AM 3 points [-]

The hat is very thin

So does it actually protect against the shock of impact or only against penetrating wounds?

Comment author: SolveIt 31 July 2015 02:25:03AM 0 points [-]

rubber on the side facing your head

Looks like it would mitigate the shock somewhat.

Comment author: James_Miller 31 July 2015 02:37:50AM 1 point [-]

Agreed. It's designed for kids who play sports but are too cool to wear helmets.

Comment author: Dorikka 31 July 2015 04:55:27AM 0 points [-]

Good point. I would be interested in learning what types of impacts (in terms of acceleration, preferably rotational) crasche is designed for, as well as its performance compared to traditional helmets. Do you know of any commonly used metrics that might ve useful for comparing helmets in general? If I remember correctly, the ASME standards use a very high acceptance criteria for linear acceleration (>100g) and do not account for rotational acceleration (which seems to cause most of the damage.)

Comment author: Lumifer 31 July 2015 02:42:17PM 1 point [-]

This helmet is some neoprene (not rigid foam) inside pieces of a plastic shell. It doesn't look capable of passing certifications and the website does not mention any (or, actually, any data on how well it deals with impacts).

Comment author: Dorikka 07 August 2015 03:26:14AM 0 points [-]

I got some info, linking in case you're interested.

Comment author: Dorikka 06 August 2015 03:51:17AM 0 points [-]

Hmph. I sent them an email asking for some quantification of performance, or studies if they have them. Will see what they say.

Comment author: James_Miller 31 July 2015 05:32:21AM 0 points [-]

Sorry, but I don't have the data you request.

Comment author: Dorikka 07 August 2015 03:26:41AM 0 points [-]

I got some info regarding this, linking in case you're interested.