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OrphanWilde comments on Tell me what hat to buy - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: OrphanWilde 24 August 2015 02:43:25PM 0 points [-]

I didn't say that the reasons were bad. I said the reasons were false. That is, they're not your real reasons for desiring a new hat.

Because you're not buying a hat to protect against both heat exhaustion -and- extreme cold. Apart from the contradiction there, you already -have- hats for these purposes, or these purposes would have come up in your original request. You're looking for a hat for which -neither of these conditions apply-, or else they would have entered into your specification. And if neither of these conditions apply and your desire for a hat remains, then your desire for a hat is independent of those conditions.

They might be fine reasons for -other- people to wear hats. But it doesn't matter, because they're not your reasons.

Comment author: Jiro 08 September 2015 05:53:22PM 0 points [-]

Somewhat old post but...

Apart from the contradiction there, you already -have- hats for these purposes, or these purposes would have come up in your original request. You're looking for a hat for which -neither of these conditions apply-, or else they would have entered into your specification.

That's not necessarily true. These conditions may have been necessary but not sufficient conditions.

Comment author: OrphanWilde 08 September 2015 06:05:19PM 0 points [-]

They can be necessary but not sufficient conditions for buying a hat. The issue is that even once those conditions are met, those two reasons aren't merely reasons for buying a hat, but important specifications for the hat you are going to buy. If your goal is to prevent heat stroke, a hat that keeps you warm in the winter is counterproductive.

(I have owned quite a few hats, and used to wear one most of the time in public - in my college years a bowler, later a fedora, by which I mean a fedora and not a trilby. I donated most of them after realizing the effect they were having on my mood. At this point I own two hats; one is a black oilcloth hat for rain and costumes, and the other one is a fabric hat for sun.)