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I'd go even further and make the comment mandatory. Or remove likes/dislikes altogether and use ratings like "irrational" or "off-topic" or "I personally disagree" instead, along with the ability to add some more explanation.
+5 insightful, +5 funny :-/
It's not a new idea and it has been tried. Slashdot spent years experimenting with different karma models -- that is valuable empirical data.
Irrational; off-topic; trite; redundant; attitude; poorly written/expressed; I personally disagree.
Rational; interesting/clever; positive vibe man!; I don't really care, but feel that you have been unfairly downvoted.
Problem: I suspect that most people who down vote because "I personally disagree" might actually click "irrational".
I think on LW a lot of people can distinguish "I personally disagree" from "you don't provide a proper argument".
My thought was that most people who do make the distinction between "I personally disagree" and "you don't provide a proper argument" are also the people who are unlikely to vote down simply because they disagree. I could be wrong.
I think it depend on the context. There are cases on LW when voting down because you disagree makes sense and others where it doesn't.
This is likely, and requiring a comment or some additional feedback might be a good idea for calling something irrational.
You can imagine that I clicked "I personally disagree" on your comment.
The problem is, unless I also explain why, I will seem like a jerk. But if I explain, it will cost me time, so naturally after writing a few careful explanations I will simply stop downvoting.
The suggestion for different types of rating is a particularly good idea. Why you were downvoted isn't always obvious, and this makes it hard to get feedback from a downvote. I think too many people downvote based upon their agreement with a commenter's position rather than how well it is justified, which isn't how I think the system should work. I've upvoted a number of comments I disagree with but thought were argued well.
I find it amusing that the comment above this one was downvoted without explanation.