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Comment author: Lu93 14 August 2015 12:39:56PM -2 points [-]

I don't think that having more meta-threads on how the community can improved provides the kind of content that brings LW forward. I don't think that having an extra section for meta conversation about LW could be improved would be a move in the right direction.

Funny you say that. Because you want LW to go forward, no? I got that from your wording. However, you want to avoid talking about that, and you want to proceed doing what you feel you need to do, which is making posts on whatever you want to post about. You don't want to do it deliberately, and you want to let it happen on its own. I think that if you thought for 5 minutes on this topic (improvement of LW), you would not have this opinion.

Especially for people with low karma. Is this ad hominem? Better evaluate my arguments than my karma. And even if you want to evaluate me, having karma as only argument is pretty miserable.

I will continue with position you want LW to improve. Do you claim that staying the same will improve LW or its members? Do we agree LW has to change, as well as its members in order to improve? Do we agree change has to be deliberately chosen to be an improvement? Do you claim you can do it with your gut feeling? Do you claim that course I offered as a resource is false in any way? If so, please refer me to the counterargument. Do you claim organization of the site would not be good for its members? Do you claim segregation of topics would not organize this site? Do you claim this solution is not feasible?

I tried to be rigorous towards arguments you offered, and not harsh to you. I love you, and i hope this conversation will do good to both of us.

Comment author: ChristianKl 14 August 2015 01:25:01PM 2 points [-]

Because you want LW to go forward, no?

It's interesting that you ask that question will ignoring my request to define what you mean with LW.

I think that if you thought for 5 minutes on this topic (improvement of LW), you would not have this opinion.

If you would search posts that I have written on the topic, would would see that I spent many hours thinking about this topic.

Basically the only way for you to hold this misconception is by being ignorant of prior discussions on the subject on LW. The fact that you haven't read them suggests to me that you have thought relatively little compared to the amount of thought I put into the subject.

Do you claim segregation of topics would not organize this site?

I think having too much segregation of topic is one of the reasons why the QS forum doesn't work (where I'm a moderator but lost this argument).

I say that as someone who did moderate a big personal development forum for 4 years and who has been asked for advice by other people starting personal development forums.

How much experience do you have in shaping online communities?

Do we agree change has to be deliberately chosen to be an improvement?

No, I don't believe in intelligent design.

On LW everybody is free to start a new threads without having a debate about starting it. Karma votes then either show that the community likes the new thread or that it doesn't like it. It sometimes worthwhile to express arguments for why you vote the way you do, but no group design progress is needed at the start.

Do-ocracy is a decent organisational concept.

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