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13 Post author: Elo 24 August 2015 07:58AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 24 August 2015 09:25:23AM 1 point [-]

I think the options could be more diverse. For example, 'fame/renoundness' doesn't take into account a possible wish for blending in, or just for a different kind of acknowledges. For example, my sister went to volunteer once and was told there was no need for her to get involved, but she was called by my name. Each of us certainly wish people wouldn't mistake us for the other, but it doesn't mean we wish more people to know us. Or 'freedom'; what if one wants to settle down, but not to be 'trapped' - one would need to add qualifiers to the stated choice, which is not a good feature in a questionnaire.

Comment author: Elo 24 August 2015 10:14:23AM *  1 point [-]

desire to blend in is one that neither me nor the people who I asked to review came up with! Well done!

Edited: conformity.

It feels like a hollow goal. I wonder why I didn't come up with it. To me; (a very non-conformist person) you can never really fit in. As hard as you try; you will never be "normal" because normal is always an average of the world; so its not a real thing. Then again; other goals like legacy are just as much not real...

Comment author: [deleted] 24 August 2015 11:48:19AM 0 points [-]

Actually, the 'get your act together' is interesting; perhaps 'self-awareness' can have a specific option of 'debug inconsistencies in your worldview'?

Comment author: [deleted] 24 August 2015 11:45:11AM 0 points [-]

As to the performance question - are options 1 and 2 not the same? Since it is hard to envision a diametrically opposite goal(although one might plausibly want to be better at recognizing others' attempts at manipulation), is this more of a leading question?

Comment author: Elo 24 August 2015 11:58:11AM 0 points [-]

Can you clarify what you mean by this? I suspect you have summarised; but I don't know which point you are asking about specifically. Maybe quote the original?

Comment author: [deleted] 24 August 2015 12:22:30PM 0 points [-]

'Do you want to be X', 'do you want to be able to do X' - I realize it's not exactly the same, but maybe the second one should be stated more like '...to occasionally lighten the mood', or some such.

Comment author: Elo 24 August 2015 12:30:20PM 0 points [-]

Explicitly - having the skills of performing on a stage is different to actually being the person who performs. you might want to train in those abilities for the fun of training without actually using the skills. That is why both classes are mentioned