My arguments weren't meant to be logically water tight to lead to an undeniable position refuting a particular position, they were meant to start a discussion.
Why is it messed up? Lack of competition. Why is there so little competition in the cause prioritization space? Why aren’t there more organisations saying EA’s, donate to this best cause? Some may say it’s an economy of scale thing, but I feel like it has lead to EA orgs becoming quite methodologically lazy. While there are lots of incredible strengths, we also have weaknesses and despite open solicitation for criticism, whenever I for one criticise aspects of the movement I get shot down without my actual arguments getting shot down.
I hate to keep being the resident cost-effectiveness skeptic/denialist and getting tonnes of downvotes for it (but someone has to be the Red Team in the EA movement), but I wanted to clarify and admit that I misunderstood much of the controversy around deworming and that is it contained to: 1) the impact of MASS deworming v.s. individual deworming), which is relevant to deciding whether charitable deworming (like Deworm the world or SCI) rather than user fee style deworming (private businesses, charity distortion free, free markets) is appropriate and (2) whether deworming is actually that much a good public health intervention. I like effective altruism cause I have a very low tolerance for the idea that I might be donating to wasteful causes, and I feel like this is something that would concern many EA’s and we ought to investigate it. I wish an informal committee of some sort was convened to routinely challenge or dogmas cause I feel we have been stagnating and are increasingly becoming complacent, naïve (see GiveWell’s underwhelming responses to the Cochrane review disfavourful of deworming) and thus increasingly unsexy. Ps. I feel like altruism is way to contentious a word for a movement that could be less about ‘ethics’ and other vague philosophical vocabulary and more about economy and charity, which describes what we actually do.
Why aren’t there more organisations saying EA’s, donate to this best cause?
Because most people don't value everyone's welfare equally, and that's a basic assumption of EA. It's like asking why there aren't more organizations selling lollipops containing insects.
Over the last few days I've been reviewing the evidence for EA charity recommendations. Based on my personal experience alone, the community seems to be comprehensively inept, poor at marketing, extremely insular, methodologically unsophisticated but meticulous, transparent and well-intentioned. I currently hold the belief that EA movement building does more harm than good and that is requires significant rebranding and shifts in its informal leadership or to die out before it damages the reputation of the rationalist community and our capacity to cooperate with communities that share mutual interests.
It's one thing to be ineffective and know it. It's another thing to be ineffective and not know it. It's yet another thing to be ineffective, not know it, yet champion effectiveness and make a claim to moral superiority.
In case you missed the memo deworming is controversial, GiveWell doesn't engage with the meat of the debate, and my investigations of the EA community's spaces suggests that it's not at all known. I've even briefly posted about it elsewhere on LessWrong to see if there was unspoken knowledge about it, but it seems not. Given that it's the hot topic in mainstream development studies and related academic communities, I'm aghast at how irresponsive 'we' are.
What's actionable for us here. If you're looking for a high reliability effective altruism prospect, do not donate to SCI or Evidence Action. And by extension, do not donate to EA organisations to donate to these groups, including GiveWell. I am assuming you will use those funds more wisely instead, say buying healthier food for yourself.
For who don't to review the links for a more comprehensive analyses from Cochrane and GiveWell, here is one summary of the debate recommended in the Cochrane article:
Additional criticisms of GiveWelL charities: http://lesswrong.com/lw/mo0/open_thread_aug_24_aug_30/cp8h
The kind of work I think EA's should be focussing on http://lesswrong.com/lw/mld/genosets/cnys AND
http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/mk2/lets_pour_some_chlorine_into_the_mosquito_gene/
The problem with MIRI: http://lesswrong.com/lw/cr7/proposal_for_open_problems_in_friendly_ai/cm2j