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Comment author: Jiro 01 September 2015 03:32:02PM 5 points [-]

Being a sex buyer is low status. Being in an oppressed group such as sex workers is high status in many political contexts.

Comment author: Lumifer 01 September 2015 04:36:32PM 2 points [-]

Being a sex buyer is low status.

That depends. Being a john is low-status. Inviting girls over to your yacht for champagne and caviar is high-status.

Being in an oppressed group such as sex workers is high status in many political contexts.

That really depends. A whore is not a high-status professsion.

Comment author: Jiro 01 September 2015 05:59:50PM *  4 points [-]

Inviting girls over to your yacht for champagne and caviar is high-status.

That's not being a "sex buyer" within the context of needing advocacy for sex buying.

That really depends. A whore is not a high-status professsion.

Thus, "in many political contexts".

Comment author: Viliam 02 September 2015 07:42:18AM 1 point [-]

I wonder what is the lesson here.

"If you want to buy sex for money, you better have a lot of money, or it will reflect poorly on you."

Or perhaps:

"Doing things in a way which demonstrates that you have a lot of money can make almost anything high-status."

Comment author: Lumifer 02 September 2015 02:39:13PM *  1 point [-]

If you want to buy sex for money, you better have a lot of money, or it will reflect poorly on you.

Or: be classy, not crass. Form and style matter.

It is, of course, easier to be classy when you have a yacht stocked with champagne and caviar on hand... X-/

Doing things in a way which demonstrates that you have a lot of money can make almost anything high-status.

Counter-example: Donald Trump. A dictionary counter-example: nouveau riche :-)

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 01 September 2015 03:53:58PM *  2 points [-]

From memory: Amnesty International has come out in favor of legalizing prostitution. They were grudging about admitting that, while they aren't going to call it human rights, they have to support something like human rights for prostitutes' customers and agents.

Comment author: ChristianKl 01 September 2015 10:06:56PM 3 points [-]

They were grudging about admitting that, while they aren't going to call it human rights, they have to support something like human rights for prostitutes' customers and agents.

I read the Amnesty paper and it didn't said something about rights for customers or agents.

Comment author: James_Miller 01 September 2015 05:50:45PM 0 points [-]

Hence the term "status whore."