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Vaniver comments on Meta post: Did something go wrong? - Less Wrong Discussion

3 Post author: Elo 31 August 2015 10:58PM

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Comment author: Vaniver 01 September 2015 12:01:14AM *  3 points [-]

Less Wrong has two subreddits: Main and Discussion. Val's post on Proper Posture for Mental Arts is in Main. Votes on posts in Main are worth 10 times as much karma as votes on posts in Discussion, because of the higher standards for posts there.

You can see a unified lists of posts from both subreddits here.

Comment author: Elo 01 September 2015 01:50:50AM *  4 points [-]

When I click main it defaults to "promoted", you linked in this comment to main/all which caught the post. I wonder if anyone else has the problem of missing posts like this. There is no way I could have found this post if I didn't try really hard to work out where it was. After 10 mins I decided to screenshot and ask someone..

Is there something that can be done about these posts being lost/not-easy to find?

My usual process is:

  1. www.lesswrong.com
  2. -discusssion
  3. (sometimes click >main)
  4. sometimes autocomplete to http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/new/

I can easily change what I do to also check Main/notpromotedbutnormalmainposts. But I wonder if anyone else misses things and can be helped like this?

Comment author: Vaniver 01 September 2015 01:35:04PM 5 points [-]

I wonder if anyone else misses things

Yes. The current setup is not ideal.

Comment author: OrphanWilde 01 September 2015 03:17:19PM 1 point [-]

It's a half-tier between discussion and main attempting to alleviate scaling issues.

A better solution would just be to implement a full tier between discussion and main, or to create a new tier above main. Sample proposal (I'm not going to do this, so I don't expect anybody else to do this, this is just an example structure):

Discussion remains as-is. Main is consolidated into a single tier. Promoted is created as a tier above Main, with some multiple of the karma values, but requires a buy-in of, say, 500, or maybe 1000 Karma Points for each post placed there, and automatically demote any post in Promoted which gets below -10 Karma and stays there for a full day. Default users who aren't logged in to Promoted as the new "main" page. Additionally, create a new members-only "Social" board where meet-ups and off-topic conversation can be engaged in; Posts and comments there can be upvoted and downvoted, but have no Karma value.

Comment author: Elo 02 September 2015 12:03:25AM 0 points [-]

I don't know how do judge if that's going to work. I would say a buy-in of 300 is probably enough.

I think a full tier would work; what we really need is a link to the two areas, also clear explanation of what they are.

Comment author: ike 01 September 2015 02:21:25AM 4 points [-]
Comment author: tim 01 September 2015 03:11:53AM 2 points [-]

Is this a link that is supposed to be readily accessible? A quick search through the source of this page doesn't turn up any hits for "all/new" outside your post here and it's corresponding entry in the recent comments section.

Maybe this obvious to regular users of reddit, but I had no idea you could filter lists of posts with the /r/ syntax.

Comment author: ike 01 September 2015 03:40:21AM 1 point [-]
Comment author: tim 01 September 2015 03:50:08AM 1 point [-]

So, no?

Comment author: ike 01 September 2015 03:51:48AM 1 point [-]

The FAQ links to that page. So presumably it's not terribly unsupported.

Comment author: tim 01 September 2015 04:00:57AM *  2 points [-]

I guess...

But I would never think to navigate to the FAQ of a site and scroll through several hundred lines of completely unrelated text to find an instance of the link which allows me to then view a comprehensive collection of new content from said site.

Comment author: Elo 01 September 2015 04:30:29AM *  1 point [-]

Thank you!

Shows that I am not the only village idiot here!

Who do I contact to go about fixing this thing?

Comment author: ike 01 September 2015 10:27:00AM 1 point [-]

I suppose you can open an issue at https://github.com/tricycle/lesswrong-migrated

Comment author: Irgy 01 September 2015 07:55:31AM 2 points [-]

I know about both links but still find it annoying that the default behavior for main is to list what to me seems like just an arbitrary subset of the posts, and I need to then click another button to get the rest of them. Unless there's some huge proportion of the reader-base who only care about "promoted" posts and don't want to see the others, the default ought to be to show everything. I'm sure there's people who miss a lot of content and don't even know they're missing it.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 01 September 2015 07:30:24AM 1 point [-]

On the Main page, there's a "New" tab at the top, which displays all posts in Main, newest first. That's the URL I have bookmarked, and if I happen to come in via lesswrong.com, that's where I go first. I'm theoretically aware that there's a URL to everything all mixed together, but I've always preferred to read Main(new) and Discussion separately.