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EHeller comments on Typical Sneer Fallacy - Less Wrong Discussion

10 Post author: calef 01 September 2015 03:13AM

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Comment author: Douglas_Knight 03 September 2015 04:38:22AM 1 point [-]

It seems to me that Eliezer is basically correct on the physics. It seems to me that you and SU3 looked at a big jump and instead of trying to figure out what he was trying to say, even to the extent of following the links on the reddit thread, just rounded it off to the nearest error you had a counterexample at hand for.

I think "sneer" is a pretty appropriate description.

I have seen some criticism of the example that engages with it, and maybe it would be best to say that it is not a legitimate argument because it relies on fragile things holding when a closely related fragile thing has shattered. But that is a very different criticism.

Comment author: EHeller 04 September 2015 12:42:50AM *  1 point [-]

I don't see how Eliezer is correct here. Conservation of energy just isn't deeply related to the deeper structure of quantum mechanics in the way Harry suggests. It's not related to unitarity, so you can't do weird non-unitary things.