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buybuydandavis comments on Yudkowsky, Thiel, de Grey, Vassar panel on changing the world - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: buybuydandavis 01 September 2015 09:41:42PM 5 points [-]

The first question was why isn't everyone trying to change the world, with the underlying assumption that everyone should be.

Not everyone cares that much about "the world", and that's likely a good thing.

I would generalize the question, because the generalization applies broadly - whatever we profess to value, whatever we believe we value, why aren't we expending more time and energy actually creating that value?

One answer that pops to mind runs against encouraging people to "save the world" - that caring about things beyond your control largely only prevents you from caring about, and thereby having the motivation to act, on things in your control.

Comment author: JEB_4_PREZ_2016 01 September 2015 10:39:31PM *  0 points [-]

"I would generalize the question, because the generalization applies broadly - whatever we profess to value, whatever we believe we value, why aren't we expending more time and energy actually creating that value?"

Okay I'll bite.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 02 September 2015 01:08:34AM *  0 points [-]

I'm not going to the gym because of the tragedy of the commons? I really don't think that's it.

Comment author: JEB_4_PREZ_2016 02 September 2015 01:30:11AM *  0 points [-]

Well, you value whatever you're doing instead of going to the gym more than you value saving the world is what I was getting at. People value their own expected utility more than they value societal expected utility, even if most individuals in society would be better off if everyone somehow valued societal expected utility. Seems reasonably likely to me anyways.

Perhaps I misunderstood you; now it seems like you were saying "why do we hyperbolic discount?" or something to that effect.