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Comment author: Lumifer 04 September 2015 02:49:30PM *  1 point [-]

I'm not sure about China as it might be too corrupt for passive investing to work.

That's an interesting offhand comment. Does that imply that EMH doesn't apply to financial assets in corrupt economies, specifically to external (foreign) investors who can come and leave as they want?

Also, while China's official economic numbers are highly suspect (see e.g. this), it looks very likely that it is one of the three world's biggest economies (along with USA and EU). Can a passive investor afford to ignore it?

To help mitigate the currency risk of investments?

Well, it doesn't mitigate the risk, it just partially avoids it. You are right in that investing in foreign countries brings with it FX risk and while it's easy to hedge a lot of people are not going to bother.

Another interesting thing here is that the currency markets do not fall under EMH, both empirically (they are clearly not a random walk) and theoretically (the preconditions for EMH do not hold).

Comment author: James_Miller 04 September 2015 03:32:55PM *  2 points [-]

Does that imply that EMH doesn't apply to financial assets in corrupt economies, specifically to external (foreign) investors who can come and leave as they want?

Yes, although with China you can't necessarily leave when you want as the government might restrict sales.

Can a passive investor afford to ignore it?

No, but by investing in U.S. firms that do business in China you are not ignoring it.

Comment author: Larks 05 September 2015 09:09:12PM 1 point [-]

US firms? Your main China exposure is going to come from your Aussie mining exposure.

Comment author: Lumifer 04 September 2015 03:37:30PM 1 point [-]

by investing in U.S. firms that do business in China you are not ignoring it

We are talking about index funds. I don't think a US equity index will give you any meaningful exposure to specifically China (as opposed to, say, some global factor like risk appetite).